Dave Dave grew hands/fingers?!

by TouchedByAnAngel Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:15 pm

I don't know if this has been discussed before or if my eyes are deceiving me but I was watching once again the Larry King Live interview with Dave Dave and Miko Brando. If you pause at 2:52 on this video you can see parts of fingers on both hands!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y19Gx1eqQk&feature=player_embedded#

On his myspace page his pic shows his left arm ending in a long skinny point with no fingers or parts of fingers at all.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=467884263&blogId=516600789

Please check this out and tell me what's up! I have thought since the show first aired that "Dave Dave" sounded like MJ and had the same mannerisms.

If anyone sees what I see, please save the video before it is removed! I don't have software to do this but I know some people know how.

by DarkYetLovely Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:39 pm

There's a whole hand there in that myspace pic. It's just shrouded in shadow.

by TouchedByAnAngel Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:46 pm

I'm sorry but I'm looking at the pic on his myspace page (top left) and the left arm that he has up on his shoulder doesn't have any hand on it that I can see! Follow from elbow up to right where his wrist would start and then it narrows down to a point.

by DarkYetLovely Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:52 pm

Yeah it's just a shadow. See how dark the shadows are in the picture all over his body? There's really intense lighting in the shot which is creating a lot of contrast. Check out the right side of his face. It get's totally black. And his chest and part of his right arm are covered by shadow.

by TouchedByAnAngel Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:59 pm

When you click on the small pic on the myspace page it takes you to this larger pic http://www.myspace.com/daevdaev

Can't anybody see this? I am talking about the left arm he has going up to his shoulder near his face! Again...follow from the the elbow towards the wrist...then it narrows to a point. This is not shadow hiding a hand.

by TouchedByAnAngel Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:56 am

Anybody else care to look at this? I'm not trying to be disrespectful to Dave Dave, but I think this is an important clue!

by raluka Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:40 am

I was looking as well..it is a bit strange, the pic is strangely done as well...I saw once about 5 pics of Dave Dave but I don't remember where..nor if he had normal left hand ...oh...but from those mics I remember that the eyes were completely different. At LKL he had brown eyes and in those pic he had light hazel eyes...i'll try to find those pics...

by raluka Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:53 am

check this about Dave Dave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YkKWzG03CE&feature=related

by lilith Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:00 am

Look at these pictures, they are on his myspace as well:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=467884263&albumID=516683&imageID=4010112#a=516683&i=4010112

and this:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=467884263&albumID=516683&imageID=4010112#a=516683&i=10509975

and you can see that he in fact has hands, with fingers.

by raluka Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:11 am

There are similarities between the DAve Dave in the myspace pics and the one at LKL. It might be the makeup that makes the difference...still I don't see the neck scar 9it might be covered by the shirt..). I had the feeling that the real DD is taller but the one talking about Michael seems to be short...just as MJ...

by raluka Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:13 am

not to mention the clothes he's wearing..they look 2 size bigger...

by MichaelFan1234 Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:18 am

I can make out lots of difference between Real Dave Dave and the one in Larry Kings show. I stongly believe it is MJ on LK's show.

by raluka Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:24 am

can u tell more differences? apart from eye color and lip shape and make up..

by MichaelFan1234 Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:15 am

his voice mainly and his body movement as mj real dave never make much movement when he speaks watch his other interviews maybe in www.michaeljacksondeathhoax.com

by Vampyre Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:37 am

I'm a firm believer that it was MJ on LKL. Just look at Michael Jackson's interview with Geraldo Rivera and compare it to LKL - it's the same person! The eyes, the way he speaks, the gestures, the way he listens to questions, the way he moves his head and neck etc. Unmistakable.

by Kirsche Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:26 pm

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/79/l_ca3aefb8c2fb479bb2add5df2ab6a7c3.jpg

sorry, but when i compare his hands with the hands of the LKL DD, they look different....The hands of LKL DD looked like rubber gloves...as far as I saw that

by Hgurl789 Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:12 pm

dave dave is not michael!

by Souza81 Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:18 pm

I don't even need to see Dave's pictures. Larry King Dave is 100% MJ to me.

by angelight Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:26 pm

agreed sweetheart totally.x love angelight.x Dave Dave grew hands/fingers?! Icon_biggrin

by angelight Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:34 pm

Hgurl789 wrote:dave dave is not michael!

yes dave dave is not mj Dave Dave grew hands/fingers?! Icon_biggrin

but the dave dave on larry king was our beautifull mj disguised as dave dave,any real fan of mj can see that by far hun.x Dave Dave grew hands/fingers?! Icon_rr

by Kirsche Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:42 pm

angelight wrote:
Hgurl789 wrote:dave dave is not michael!

yes dave dave is not mj but the dave dave on larry king was our beautifull mj disguised as dave dave,any real fan of mj can see that by far hun.x

oh yes you're totally right Smile

by ONESTEPCLOSER Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:44 pm

anyone have a link to dave dave on larry king????

by ONESTEPCLOSER Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:47 pm

Oh its ok, found it Very Happy

by YouAreMyLifeMJ Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:59 pm

I will admit that the Dave Dave on Larry King Live did look like MJ. But idk...I still have my doubts.

by tayl0rx4 Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:05 pm

Ehh this topic im really iffy about. I dont think MJ was DD on LKL i think its too over the top but thats just my opinion

by Kirsche Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:06 pm

tayl0rx4 wrote:Ehh this topic im really iffy about. I dont think MJ was DD on LKL i think its too over the top but thats just my opinion

too over the top? But do you remember Michael's Disguises`? Wink

by YouAreMyLifeMJ Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:09 pm

tayl0rx4 wrote:Ehh this topic im really iffy about. I dont think MJ was DD on LKL i think its too over the top but thats just my opinion

Ya I agree. I mean...I think there's maybe a 20 or 30% chance it was him, but it is very easy to go overboard.

by DarkYetLovely Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:33 pm

Ok so since we're on this subject again, maybe someone will venture an explanation for the following:

1) The left side of his upper lip is somewhat paralyzed, probably due
to nerve damage done by the burn. I'm hard pressed to come up with a
way for anyone to fake that. Unless he sewed his lip down from the
inside, I don't see how he can make it not move with the rest of his
face unless it's actually paralyzed.

2) His left ear? It's half
there. If it was Michael in disguise, how'd they get rid of the top
portion of his ear? I don't know guys...

I posted this on MJHD and as yet have not had any real responses to it. Just a lot of "LKL Dave Dave was Michael"s.
Before you say the ear was done with prosthetic make-up, please consider that even with make-up, all you can do is cover up or add on. If they simply covered his ear, we should at least see a bulge where the rest of his ear is hiding, should we not?

Now I admit that the LKL Dave Dave doesn't seem totally like the Dave Dave we see in some of his myspace pictures. The eyes really bother me, as does the size of the nose at times. But I just can't get passed these couple of things. Somebody already mentioned the hands, which is also something that's bugging me. And then there's motive...

So anyway, what do you think?

by Kirsche Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:41 pm

With the ear-story

You can cover up your ear completely with make up and theatralic make up....

Just think about the movie friday the 31th... Jason without Mask...he also has an half ear...and I don't think that the actor looks like that in real life Wink

What I wanna say is: everything is possible with the right make up

by DarkYetLovely Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:48 pm

I've never seen the movie and the picture's kinda hard to see, but this dude's whole head is bloated with a mask. DD's head wasn't big around the space above the ear. To cover it up you have to actually... well cover it up.

by Kirsche Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:51 pm

okay. that's you're opinion....just compare the two voices and his eyes....

I'm convinced it was MJ. The first time I heard that voice I thought it was an older interview of MJ

by YouAreMyLifeMJ Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:02 pm

Kirsche wrote:okay. that's you're opinion....just compare the two voices and his eyes....

I'm convinced it was MJ. The first time I heard that voice I thought it was an older interview of MJ

IDK what to believe! I feel the same way I did when I started to believe MJ was alive. I didn't believe it at first...but as more and more things started happening (and not happening, like the funeral) I did. Yes, Dave Dave sounded similar and had the same body language and eyes as MJ...but I find it kinda hard to believe MJ would go that far. But like I said, I don't know...anything is possible at this point I guess.

by Kirsche Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:04 pm

right, anything is possible with MJ.

I mean... why should Dave Dave wear brown contact lenses?

by YouAreMyLifeMJ Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:07 pm

Kirsche wrote:right, anything is possible with MJ.

I mean... why should Dave Dave wear brown contact lenses?

What color are his eyes naturally? Dave Dave grew hands/fingers?! Icon_question

by Kirsche Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:08 pm

he has green eyes

by DarkYetLovely Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:09 pm

Le sigh,

It's not my opinion. It's physics.

I'm really not trying to be a downer here, or to just throw a big fat "your wrong!" at anybody. I'm merely checking to see if anybody has any ideas about it. Particularly the lip. I don't wanna believe something that's false just because I'd like it to be true.

A lot of people seem to be ignoring these things that contradict what they're saying is fact, and if they chose to do so then they may, by all means. I'm just presenting something I've found that doesn't fit with the theories.

Taking your advice, I watched for the umpteenth time, a video of Dave Dave. I know Michael's eyes and voice well enough I think, so I'm just focusing on DD. I went and watched the video someone previously posted on this thread about Dave Dave and there are a couple of moments of him in the car. I paid close attention to the eyes and they actually look different in the car.

Anyway, if you have your opinion and wanna stick to it that's fine. I'm just saying....

by Kirsche Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:11 pm

DarkYetLovely wrote:Le sigh,

It's not my opinion. It's physics.

I'm really not trying to be a downer here, or to just throw a big fat "your wrong!" at anybody. I'm merely checking to see if anybody has any ideas about it. Particularly the lip. I don't wanna believe something that's false just because I'd like it to be true.

A lot of people seem to be ignoring these things that contradict what they're saying is fact, and if they chose to do so then they may, by all means. I'm just presenting something I've found that doesn't fit with the theories.

Taking your advice, I watched for the umpteenth time, a video of Dave Dave. I know Michael's eyes and voice well enough I think, so I'm just focusing on DD. I went and watched the video someone previously posted on this thread about Dave Dave and there are a couple of moments of him in the car. I paid close attention to the eyes and they actually look different in the car.

Anyway, if you have your opinion and wanna stick to it that's fine. I'm just saying....

right, his eyes looked different in the car.. that's the point...it doesn't fit with the DD on LKL

by DarkYetLovely Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:13 pm

Oh, I thought it was from the same day.

by Kirsche Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:15 pm

IDK... there are discussions about the funeral in this forum if this was staged, you know?

Maybe the real DD was at the funeral but I don't think that the real DD was at LKL or did they follow him with the camera when he's goin to the car?

by Souza81 Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:28 pm

DarkYetLovely wrote:Le sigh,

It's not my opinion. It's physics.

I'm really not trying to be a downer here, or to just throw a big fat "your wrong!" at anybody. I'm merely checking to see if anybody has any ideas about it. Particularly the lip. I don't wanna believe something that's false just because I'd like it to be true.

A lot of people seem to be ignoring these things that contradict what they're saying is fact, and if they chose to do so then they may, by all means. I'm just presenting something I've found that doesn't fit with the theories.

Taking your advice, I watched for the umpteenth time, a video of Dave Dave. I know Michael's eyes and voice well enough I think, so I'm just focusing on DD. I went and watched the video someone previously posted on this thread about Dave Dave and there are a couple of moments of him in the car. I paid close attention to the eyes and they actually look different in the car.

Anyway, if you have your opinion and wanna stick to it that's fine. I'm just saying....

I think you have never heard of optical illusion and things that can be done by camera's alone... He doesn't have such a big jacket on for fun, it's to make the head looks smaller. Also the camera can do a lot by narrowing. The make-up itself is not a problem at all.

by jenn77 Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:33 pm

I'm really not trying to be a downer here, or to just throw a big fat "your wrong!" at anybody. I'm merely checking to see if anybody has any ideas about it. Particularly the lip. I don't wanna believe something that's false just because I'd like it to be true.

Here is a "out there" theory on the lip thingy...Gosh I am almost afraid to to post this.. Dave Dave grew hands/fingers?! Lol

You might think I've lost all my marbles... if I ever had any!! Dave Dave grew hands/fingers?! Icon_geek

What if, keep an open mind here, what if the DD on LKL was Michael and to stabilize the lip he had some freezing stuff like at the dentists injected?? You know just enough to numb up that porting on his mouth !?! Dave Dave grew hands/fingers?! Icon_surprised

Any thoughts on this? Anyone??

by DarkYetLovely Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:44 pm

lol thank you jenn77! Finally, somebody put some thought into it and was brave enough to try for an explanation. And I suppose it's possible he could've done that.

Souza......

I'm a portrait artist, and as such I have learned to pay close attention to features as they relate to other parts of the body. I am aware of the big jacket and it's affect on the overall appearance. However, when I'm talking about the size of his head, I'm talking in relation to the features on it. I am also aware of hollywood's ability to put make-up on people to alter their appearance. However, I can almost always tell when it's been done as there's usually something that looks "made-up". This would of course be more easily done when creating flesh that is mangled without a lot of definitive lines.

And I can assure you... the camera angle has nothing to do with anything I'm questioning.

by Souza81 Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:52 pm

DarkYetLovely wrote:lol thank you jenn77! Finally, somebody put some thought into it and was brave enough to try for an explanation. And I suppose it's possible he could've done that.

Souza......

I'm a portrait artist, and as such I have learned to pay close attention to features as they relate to other parts of the body. I am aware of the big jacket and it's affect on the overall appearance. However, when I'm talking about the size of his head, I'm talking in relation to the features on it. I am also aware of hollywood's ability to put make-up on people to alter their appearance. However, I can almost always tell when it's been done as there's usually something that looks "made-up". This would of course be more easily done when creating flesh that is mangled without a lot of definitive lines.

And I can assure you... the camera angle has nothing to do with anything I'm questioning.

I think you made the make-up artist a big compliment here Wink

by sw148 Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:26 am

yes dave dave is not mj but the dave dave on larry king was our beautifull mj disguised as dave dave,any real fan of mj can see that by far hun.x

your comment is extremely patronising. We all have our own opinions, I'm sorry but theres no need for "any real fan of mj can see that by far Hun" because it's simply your opinion.
Personally, I don't think dave is mike because he would adopt a different voice at least, also, with dave having been around mike he wouldve picked up some of his mannerisms, it happens naturally. Xx albino

by MJLover1990 Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:30 am

I really think that the Dave Dave on LKL was Michael, but the Dave Dave on Myspace and at the funeral and stuff isn't Michael but I think that Michael gives clues to Dave Dave to post them on Myspace and such. Dave Dave grew hands/fingers?! Icon_sunny

by KNOWhesALIVE Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:43 am

Souza81 wrote:I don't even need to see Dave's pictures. Larry King Dave is 100% MJ to me.

Hi Souza..

According to Cassandra (not that i believe the faker anyway) she wrote on her wall that Michael helped DD to act like Michael.. And she also wrote that it is the real DD on LKL..

But he has Michaels eyes and the body language is Michaels to... Damn it's a tough one
Keep an open mind

by MichaelFan1234 Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:06 am

I agree DD is MJ. Did anyone contact dave dave, what is his email id. Is he responding to your emails. I want to send mails to him. I think he is MJ, he is invisible now, I feel he will respond to our emails.

by DawnMarie1121 Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:41 am

I'm new here, so please forgive me if this has already been addressed elsewhere in the thread. I'm just wondering, if Dave Dave is Michael, what happens to Dave Dave? I mean, if Michael is assuming Dave's identity than how does Dave live his life? I'm sorry this is probably stupid, but I can't figure it out.

by Debbie Zebua Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:00 am

TouchedByAnAngel wrote:I don't know if this has been discussed before or if my eyes are deceiving me but I was watching once again the Larry King Live interview with Dave Dave and Miko Brando. If you pause at 2:52 on this video you can see parts of fingers on both hands!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y19Gx1eqQk&feature=player_embedded#

On his myspace page his pic shows his left arm ending in a long skinny point with no fingers or parts of fingers at all.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=467884263&blogId=516600789

u can save the video using zamzar

go to www.zamzar.com
click DOWNLOAD VIDEOS
copy paste the whole link from youtube
convert the file to wmv
type ur email address (it's faster using gmail than yahoo)
click CONVERT
check ur email in 5 min
it should already be there

hope it helps

Please check this out and tell me what's up! I have thought since the show first aired that "Dave Dave" sounded like MJ and had the same mannerisms.

If anyone sees what I see, please save the video before it is removed! I don't have software to do this but I know some people know how.

by Debbie Zebua Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:12 am

raluka wrote:can u tell more differences? apart from eye color and lip shape and make up..

To me, it seems as if the DD part of the LK interview is taped

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