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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:52 pm

Al Sharpton, Conrad Murray, Jesse Jackson, and the police cheif of LA (who is retiring on the 31ST OCTOBER! At the age of 61 [6+1=7] and has served 7 years on the job!) are all Freemasons.

Mike was spotted at the Arvizo court case wearing medallions ect. of Freemason symbols.

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And the Freemason / Illuminati All-Seeing Eye, saw in the more common triangle form on the US Dollar, is on the Dangerous cover, amongst other things.

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And what are the biggest most important numbers to the freemasons? 3 and 7.

On the HIStory trailer and album cover for example he wears an armband with 777 (3 sevens!)

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Post by sunnyscrapper on Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:10 pm

This is odd really. It would make sense as he has connections to all those people but my understanding of Freemasonry itself doesn't seem to fit with what MJ seemed to about...it is a secret organisation containing some quite shady people who seek to promote their own and other member's causes to get up the ladder whilst excluding the rest of us. Maybe MJ is just using them because they can help him.
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:35 pm

Could Michael be a Freemason ??? confused the all seeing eye and num 7 is repeating in everything & The LAPD chief quitting so quickly out of his career .... I am so freaking out here badly..... confused affraid confused .....
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Post by Human_nature on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:51 pm

Freemason/Illuminati

If you don't know who they are...search more than this video....


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Post by tinkerbell72 on Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:10 am

777 is also the number of Christ, no?
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Post by fa on Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:24 am

This is very impressive!

I also discussed it in a Brazilian Forum .
I can translate the things we discussed and bring to here. But I´ll need some time because it´s too much information
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:35 am

tinkerbell72 wrote:777 is also the number of Christ, no?


Yes it is...


I just realized something.........Me and my boyfriends anniversary was this past Oct 17th........we have been together for 7 years...........and my 9 year sobriety date is tomorrow...Oct 28th..... Just some of things tying MJ to the Freemasons Affraid
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:53 am

fa wrote:This is very impressive!

I also discussed it in a Brazilian Forum .
I can translate the things we discussed and bring to here. But I´ll need some time because it´s too much information

Yes take your time to translate it I would like to see it. Just some of things tying MJ to the Freemasons Icon_smile
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Post by imperfect_symmetry on Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:47 am

777 / 7 has been associated with MJ's life. I'm guessing that he is aware of that. Oh, come on, he's MJ! lol

Although I despise TMZ.com, I thought this was quite helpful: http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/michael-jackson-7/

Oh and about this Illuminati thing, I do believe that there are secret organizations who are planning / plotting for something... IDK, world domination, etc. and I'm guessing that they're powerful people. Michael is also powerful and really influential so there is possibility that they tried to control him, right?
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Post by silvy on Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:27 am

Checking facts/inconsistencies  in the news is more fun.But were talking Illuminati now right?If you really really want to know more about freemasons/illuminati please read some books about it.They are mostly not bad evil peopleYou have bad people everywhere in every religion.Freemasons are people ( men) with different religions. In every religion you have symbols and most are the same. In fact you have to believe in a "higher power" to be a member.Like pyramids,stars,sun,eye,phoenix etc..Freemasons are mostly talking about these kind of things and they are talking about their lives and helping each other. Thats why they call it "brotherhood" I  watch Warner Brothers movies.. Am i from the illuminati now?And if its such a secret thing why can i find so much about it?Just google around and don't allow mindgames.Mindgames only work if you allow it to happen. Work out your own truth and path in live.
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Post by silvy on Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:28 am

i dont get the lay-out rightsorry!
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Post by CantStopLovingU on Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:44 am

I know we have talked about this several times on this forum. If you understand how the "I" controls the music industry then it makes total sense that they had a hold on Michael from a young age - many artists are afriad of them and promote their symbolism ect in their songs, videos, album designs.

If you watch the progression of Michaels music over the years I believe that you can clearly see when Michael drew the line in the sand - saying NO to TPTB as well as changing the direction of his music all together.

Many believe that the Black Panther Dance was a message to TPTB (I believe this) and he continued against them - most obvious is the Brazilian version of the The Dont Care About Us video when he clearly stands next to the "EYE" and tells them that they will never kill him.

I have someone saved the Black Panther Dance Analysis that someone did to interpret what Michael was saying in that dance. It is very beautiful - I sent it to quite a few people the last time this subject came up. I can post it here - just have to find it.

The reason that many believe that Michael is such a threat to them is because he told them he will not allow them to dictate what he does and says in his music and there is no other artist on the face of this earth that has the love of billions of fans.

Some people take things a step further saying that the 2004 molestation charges were a final warning to Michael - I happen to think that it was nothing more then a very greedy, sick, money grubbing woman who was behind the lies - JANET ARVIZO
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Post by silvy on Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:58 am

They dont care about us..He sings about Roosevelt and Martin Luther King( both freemasons!)
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Post by warrior_of_MJ_light on Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:13 am

This VIDEO with the Illuminati to symbols, works like a hypnosis video with the music behind it and strangely the whole ... sorry, wants to nobody Too near go or abusive his with my statement, but there are certainly also such videos where as a brainwashing should serve, you fit on what have a look and looked please! There are certainly also such videos which lies behind other and NEGATIVE is spread???

It is only my feeling and I do not say that I have surely with it - but pays attention please who knows which platforms the Illumnatis use and, perhaps, WHAT they with it want to arrange!?I have not looked it completely, and then only forward spullen and without music - so that the spell cannot serve, perhaps, as a hypnosis...

If a feeling simply is for my part and I mean it only PROPERTY and for the GOOD in myself people!I am sorry, fall to yourself somebody in fear moved feels and if I injure somebody with it, this are not my intentions...
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Post by dexember on Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:15 am

I'm pretty sure MJ was working against the NWO. He refers to it in TII and I also noticed after his death that people were saying a few weeks before June 25th he was talking about 2012 and the whole 'end of the world as we know it' thing.

p.s. After lurking here I've officially lost my sanity! I'm finding "clues" in everything, from TV to cereal boxes. I found a #7 connection on a cereal box today Embarassed
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Post by silvy on Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:21 am

dexember wrote:I'm pretty sure MJ was working against the NWO. He refers to it in TII and I also noticed after his death that people were saying a few weeks before June 25th he was talking about 2012 and the whole 'end of the world as we know it' thing.

p.s. After lurking here I've officially lost my sanity! I'm finding "clues" in everything, from TV to cereal boxes. I found a #7 connection on a cereal box today Embarassed
exactly!>>>>>p.s. After lurking here I've officially lost my sanity! I'm finding "clues" in everything, from TV to cereal boxes. I found a #7 connection on a cereal box today 
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Post by silvy on Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:26 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYO7QUbK_sw
Purely Barnum !( Tom thumb is there, Barnum is there)
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Post by CantStopLovingU on Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:57 am

To be honest with you I always thought that the NWO and the Illuminati were just conspiricy theories. I remembers over 10 years ago that there was this guy at my job Gabe and he was looked at as a crazy man! He used to tell us all these things so long ago. I remember he actually became his own soverignty (sorry about the spelling) and at the time I thought he had really lost it.

By doing what he did, he became his own country in a sense - He had to agree to give up his rights to SS Income ect but he no longer was required to pay any income taxes at all. I thought it was very extreme.

The only thing that made me look at this stuff again was Michael and then in my research I found out alot of very disturbing things being said about JZ, beyonce, Kanye, Rihanna, Chris Brown, Lady Gaga and a bunch of other artists.

Who knows how much of it is true or not - At the end of the day I place my trust in God and He gives me peace. I believe He is in control of everything in one way or the other. Outside of that I dont think there is much that anyone could do.

Does anyone else have a different opinion?
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Post by CantStopLovingU on Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:01 am

In the album design I see:

The pillars (FM symbol)
The Arch (FM Symbol)
The white horse of death from the book of Revelation in the Bible - Funny how it is also a skeleton of a horse.
Little Michael as a child in the front boat
The all seeing eye
The letter M on the shirt of the other child in a boat behind the horse.
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Post by CantStopLovingU on Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:06 am

[quote="tinkerbell72"]777 is also the number of Christ, no?[/quote

Yes I believe you are correct. The number 6 is actually the number of man, the number 7 the number of Jesus.

The Bible is full of numbers and number meanings.

The number 7 (My son is a 7) means this: I think it applies to Michael too.

Renounce the WORLD and it's glories
Have a pure heart
Always look to heaven this life is temporary
Be obedient to God
Have repentance
Shed tears of sorrow and happiness
Be humble
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Post by YveLoVesMJ on Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:18 am

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Post by MJLover1990 on Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:46 pm

Just for the record because I'm getting a little confused here right now, the Freemasons, Illuminati, The New World Order and all that stuff are bad things right?
They are conspirasies and they are seeking world domination right?

I don't think Michael would ever belong to something like that he's rather against it then for it.
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Post by maya on Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:53 pm

Hi.
I just wont to ask you guys to look more in this info. We all know that MJ was very concerned about children features and I got this information witch realy made me upset. Mind Control-The Ultimate Terror
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Post by Eva R on Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:15 pm

I don't believe that stuff about mind control... Just my thought Wink
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Post by CantGetEnoughMJ on Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:25 pm

I think at one point Michael was being controlled by those all powerful forces that control the music industry (many people believe the illuminati are behind the music industry) and that is probably why you see some Freemason/Illuminati influences in his art and music. But at some point I think Michael wisened up and realized that he didn't want anything to do with it because his vision for the world was very different from theirs. As his music and ideas diverted from what they wanted him to do, I think that's when his problems started and continued until, well, the end.

I always pray that he was a few steps ahead of them and made his escape before they got him.
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Post by maria-c on Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:44 pm

Just some of things tying MJ to the Freemasons Icon_santa The staff opentalfa, a symbol with an important complex and his use goes back to the exage, the Pythagorean society they were considering his equivalent numerical one to be five, the number of the man and of the living nature of the growth and the natural harmony of the movement of the soul. 7 it is a number very appellant in the culture, they are 7 the days of the week, 7 the colors of the rainbow and 7 the cardinal sins. 7 it is the result of the sum between(among) 3 (the celestial thing) and 4 (the earthly thing). It is considered to be the perfect number that symbolizes the relation of the divine thing and I humanize it, proved from the creation llavada in 7 days. 7 in the bible specially in the Apocalypse it means holiness and perfection.
6 it means malignantly, imperfectly, for that he lacks a unit to be 7. 777 it he means totally healthily or perfectly.
Eye that everything it sees, called eye of the decision. The symbol was adopted by the masons or Illuminati to represent the great architect of the universe. It got in the bill of the dollar for Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Mason of the degree 32 º of the rite escoses. The Celtic cross is a religious icon, consists of the union of the catholic cross with a circle of his front part, is used by groups noenazis and fascist in the whole world. Situa in a general frame of utilization of pagan symbols to legitimize the National Socialism.The music represented by 777 is perfect, comes from God and they cannot destroy it. MJ across his music gives messages of freedom, peace and the love between all the human beings, and it nobody destroys it. The speech across his music.
John F. kennedy permission of a Masonic descent, denounces them in his speech of 27/04/1961, departs from the speech: " The powerful office of the President has been used to foment a conspiracy to destroy the freedom of the Americans and before it leaves the presidency I must inform the citizens about his destination, we have the opposition about the world, a monolithic and merciless conspiracy that especially in the secret means to extend his sphere of influence across the infiltration, instead of the invasion, across the subvercion, instead of elections, with intimidation, instead of free option, with guerrilla warfares in the night, instead of armies by day.
Its dissenters are silenced, not praised, no expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. Kennedy remove the monopoly to the Federal Reserve Private (Rockefeler and the House of Morgan). The arm is Rockefeler PRINCIPAL Illuminati society. He also ordered the withdrawal of troops from Vietnam. Nobody is explained as having offspring Masonic Kennedy dared to do these things, and after all that we know, was murdered on 22/11/1963
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Post by The White Rabbit on Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:55 pm

Also interesting to note that the memorial took place on the 7th of July and on the same day in Rome the Pope issued an encyclical to call for a World Political Authority- New World Order...

sorry if this isn't in the right place, i'm not use to forums really.
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Post by gemnpearl on Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:37 pm

From what I've read, the illuminati/free masons represent bad and evil things. I can't see how Michael would be involved in these organizations because he had a heart of gold. He gave all that he had for children and the less fortunate. Michael really stands for Love Just some of things tying MJ to the Freemasons Herz ! Perhaps he was a target by evil groups because of that or he was forced to be a member? Plus he was one of THE MOST Influential human beings on the planet making him extremely powerful. If these groups are truly working to take over the world with their evil plans, Michael would've been a threat to them, not their ally Just some of things tying MJ to the Freemasons Kopfschuettel .
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Post by The White Rabbit on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:35 am

gemnpearl wrote:From what I've read, the illuminati/free masons represent bad and evil things. I can't see how Michael would be involved in these organizations because he had a heart of gold. He gave all that he had for children and the less fortunate. Michael really stands for Love Just some of things tying MJ to the Freemasons Herz ! Perhaps he was a target by evil groups because of that or he was forced to be a member? Plus he was one of THE MOST Influential human beings on the planet making him extremely powerful. If these groups are truly working to take over the world with their evil plans, Michael would've been a threat to them, not their ally Just some of things tying MJ to the Freemasons Kopfschuettel .

From what i've been reading, its like people dont join the illuminati, they are born into it.
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Post by TouchedByAnAngel on Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:53 pm

I believe it is a death hoax with much bigger implications. MJ has worked on it a long time and the people who need to know about it do...like his kids/family and other key players. Michael has always delivered "messages" to us through his music. Now he is giving us messages on a much larger scale and this hoax is a way to get the attention of the whole world...and the WORLD needs to pay attention because this is so important. THIS IS IT! Michael mentioned conspiracy against him in several interviews but didn't go into details. I think all the clues are leading us to look at a worldwide conspiracy...not just against MJ but the entire world. This is the ultimate good vs bad scenario. Michael has left plenty of clues to him being alive...and the key players have also said things to make us wonder and think. Look at all the clues left by the thisisalsoit.com website.

1. It first directs back to the MJHD website...to keep people searching about the fact that his death is a hoax. This helps the fans to relieve their pain, because if you research you really see all the discrepancies in the "death" story and believe he could be alive. I do!

2.We are also directed to the TRAILER FOR THE MOVIE 2012. This movie is about the possible end of the world. At the end of the trailer for this movie it says "No matter what you believe, one date will unite us all!" In MJ's This Is It, he says WE have 4 years to fix the problems....don't look to the government to fix it.

3.We are also directed to the movie V for Vendetta

4.Also directed to look at http://joeyskaggs.com/html/final.html
Joey Skaggs is a long time famous hoax artist. Who better to help MJ pull this off than a professional? Also the page on this man's site that you are directed to is "The Final Curtain"...read it!

5.We are directed to look at Alex Jone's page about a documentary called Endgame. This is about New World Order takeover. The Illuminati (NWO) control all forms of media...print, tv, etc. It is also believed that the Illuminati control the music industry...but they didn't control MJ. He would not sell his soul to the devil and be a part of what they are up to. He is now trying to tell us about the big worldwide conspiracy that involves them. Here is a link I found to a site that explains all this and mentions MJ in part 11 of this 37 part series. I highly advise you make the time to watch all 37 parts from beginning to end and keep an open mind. I believe this is the hidden truth the Michael hinted at in so many of his songs and what he is trying to tell us now.
http://wakeupproject.com/VList.asp?Series=1&Video=91
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6. Then directed to Liberian Girl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9VwJHoI3TY Again telling us he is directing? (the hoax)

7.Year Zero http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Zero_%28game%29
Pay close attention to the section of the page that tells of the Premise and Plot

8.Then Truth vs Mainstream media https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNsSn6D3CP4 The key here is to question the media....TRUTH vs the media

9. Then the site take us to the flyer for Year Zero
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AIR_flier.jpg


One last note that ties the Illuminati in with this are some tweets made by Bruce Swedien about MJ's fear of them. I saw this as it was posted on MJHD...I went and read the tweets myself, but shortly thereafter Bruce removed them. AND one other thing I noticed that relates. When I went to see This Is It I noticed all the movies that were previewed before TII started. One movie is called Angels and Demons. It is about the Illuminati. The last line of this movie preview says
"THIS IS IT. THIS IS THE TRUTH!

I don't think MJ was ever a willing participant in the Illuminati. He damn sure didn't sell his soul to them and he is trying to expose them now!

Blessed to have been,
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Post by infinitylady on Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:58 pm

777 is also the number of Christ, no?


7 means the number of completion.
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Post by infinitylady on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:05 pm

Cantstoplovingu:

To be honest with you I always thought that the NWO and the Illuminati were just conspiricy theories. I remembers over 10 years ago that there was this guy at my job Gabe and he was looked at as a crazy man! He used to tell us all these things so long ago. I remember he actually became his own soverignty (sorry about the spelling) and at the time I thought he had really lost it.

By doing what he did, he became his own country in a sense - He had to agree to give up his rights to SS Income ect but he no longer was required to pay any income taxes at all. I thought it was very extreme.

The only thing that made me look at this stuff again was Michael and then in my research I found out alot of very disturbing things being said about JZ, beyonce, Kanye, Rihanna, Chris Brown, Lady Gaga and a bunch of other artists. <---- I posted a link from youtube about this if anyone wants it I can email to them or post the link here!

Who knows how much of it is true or not - At the end of the day I place my trust in God and He gives me peace. I believe He is in control of everything in one way or the other. Outside of that I dont think there is much that anyone could do.

Does anyone else have a different opinion?





Pretty much what you are saying here is right on point!!

About the guy at your job. Girl, he won't crazy. There is a conference call that I get on where there is a guy right now who is working on his sovereighty papers. He doesn't come anymore but he shared ALOT of interesting things on that call. I don't know the full details about gaining your sovereighty, but it's pretty heavy stuff.

There are just alot of things people that we are honestly ignorant to and it was intended to keep us that way. Dumb down to have some influence of control over us.

People perish because of the lack of knowledge

and yes at the end of the day all I can do is put my trust in God as well.Just some of things tying MJ to the Freemasons Icon_biggrin
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Post by infinitylady on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:07 pm

The White Rabbit:

Also interesting to note that the memorial took place on the 7th of July and on the same day in Rome the Pope issued an encyclical to call for a World Political Authority- New World Order...

sorry if this isn't in the right place, i'm not use to forums really.



You are right! The pope did this while millions watched about the news of MJs death. This was also another way of us not really paying attention to what is going on, this world political authority is setting up the new world order in a matter of time.
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Post by infinitylady on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:09 pm

WhiteRabbit here are the links.

This guy be on it pretty much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVe3p0vCsxQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z89v1gjs62c
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Post by neverlandprincess on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:13 pm

I had no idea you could become your own sovereighnty-how?
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Post by MJJ1982 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:14 pm

infinitylady wrote:777 is also the number of Christ, no?


7 means the number of completion.

And it has something to do with forgiveness. You can forgive (according to Jezus) someone 7 x 70 times.
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Post by infinitylady on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:15 pm

Mjj,

that's correct.
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Post by infinitylady on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:25 pm

TouchedbyAnAngel

Speaking on the movie Angels and Demons. Here is a link that TheForerunner777 from youtube speaks about. Pretty interesting. I saw only part 1 and need to watch all 4 of them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW1PN6LbzuQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Siv6gQzcIE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA9Vs1s6P2U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKHKAZUIfXU
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Post by infinitylady on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:27 pm

silvy, most all of the presidents including George Washington were freemasons.
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Post by infinitylady on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:28 pm

Dex,

speaking of 2012:

click here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL-9GxYAejQ
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Post by neverlandprincess on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:34 pm

Yes all the Presidents were-except REagan and maybe Clinton(not sure).
The links to that guy are great-however I don;t think much attention would have been given to that monumentuous meeting even if MJs funeral had not been. They never really tell us what is going on in those.
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Post by infinitylady on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:34 pm

Neverland,

Alot of paperwork and alot of research.
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Post by neverlandprincess on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:35 pm

infinitylady wrote:Neverland,

Alot of paperwork and alot of research.

HAHAHAHA!!
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Post by infinitylady on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:36 pm

Neverland,

There is alot of info on it at youtube.
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Post by neverlandprincess on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:38 pm

infinitylady wrote:Neverland,

There is alot of info on it at youtube.

Ok-I had just NEVER heard of someone doing that.
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Post by infinitylady on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:41 pm

Well, I had been hearing about it and reading about it and remembered like I said this guy sharing about doing this for himself a month or so ago. There is so much on youtube on sovereighty and much more. Very overwhelming.
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