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Post by amy on Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:57 am

um well i think no one is playing with us this should mean something or im geting crazy Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Fresse Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Icon_arrow Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Icon_razz Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Icon_arrow
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Post by juliet on Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:23 pm

MJLover1990 wrote:
juliet wrote:Joey Skaggs developed Final Curtain to make a point.
Joey Skaggs is Jonell Star Joe Skaggs.
He is Joseph Sullivan (LA Times)
He is Stuart MacLelland (Mktg.Director)
He is Paul Corey (Co, Spokesman).

Final Curtain was developed to draw attention(not to make money):
1) media's wicked ways
2) death industry

That's more or less the summary of Final Curtain.

I do hope I was able to be of help.

Wait up... are you saying that Jonell Star from Youtube who makes the Death Hoax videos is Joey Skaggs? Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Affraid


Yes, and Hoax is his art. Here's another link http://joeyskaggs.com/html/retsub.html
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Post by Kirsche on Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:30 pm

uuum okay, so you're sayin that this Jonell Star or Joey Skaggs made these videos...But why are you so sure about that? That means that he would give us some informations from first hand...
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Post by MJLover1990 on Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:37 pm

juliet wrote:
MJLover1990 wrote:
juliet wrote:Joey Skaggs developed Final Curtain to make a point.
Joey Skaggs is Jonell Star Joe Skaggs.
He is Joseph Sullivan (LA Times)
He is Stuart MacLelland (Mktg.Director)
He is Paul Corey (Co, Spokesman).

Final Curtain was developed to draw attention(not to make money):
1) media's wicked ways
2) death industry

That's more or less the summary of Final Curtain.

I do hope I was able to be of help.

Wait up... are you saying that Jonell Star from Youtube who makes the Death Hoax videos is Joey Skaggs? Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Affraid


Yes, and Hoax is his art. Here's another link [url=http://joeyskaggs.com/html/retsub.html

Wow! Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Affraid That is new to me, so that means we have all the evidence right in front of our nose.
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Post by lookwithyourheart on Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:50 pm

SOME PEOPLE ON THERE ARE ACTUALLY TAKING US FOR A RIDE. SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY BELIEVE HE'S DEAD.
SOME OF THIS STUFF IS JUST GETTING TOO WEIRD.




LOOK WITH YOUR HEART.
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Post by neverlandprincess on Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:59 pm

Grace wrote:There is somebody playing and you folks seem to like to get played ????

This is a first of a list attention seeker. Just ignore those.

It is correct that anybody can register any site and redirect to any site.
I could do it and you could do it and it does not even take an hour from registration to setting up a complete website.
If it's only a landing page redirecting you somewhere else, it will be 5 minutes to do it.

This is NOTHING but distraction and taking your positive energies away.

Two hints:
1) If you really want to find good information in the web, use alternative searching engines and start at page 40 and not at page 1. This is much more fruitful and evitates to fall for "current trend pages" such as this one.

2) Check the owner of a website ALWAYS. domaintools.com is a good adress to check the whois. Whenever the whois is hidden, private or belongs to a massproduct registrar such as godaddy - then there is most likely NO company behind a website. Companies are obliged by law to identify themselves in the web and have responsibles for content and data protection e.g.

And then relax, get popcorn and enjoy the REAL goodies in this ride.

Thanks Grace
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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:13 pm

im confused i have been on jonellstar i thought her videos were quite good they showed how michael hoaxed his death help im now losing my mind
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Post by neverlandprincess on Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:15 pm

SPAKKLE29FUL wrote:im confused i have been on jonellstar i thought her videos were quite good they showed how michael hoaxed his death help im now losing my mind

We all appreciate her videos here and it one of them she mentions Skaggs...I'm not sure where the link is saying she is him and I'm not sure I believe that-don't lose your mind I am sure we will find more things worth doing that over Smile
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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:17 pm

thanks much calmer now
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Post by juliet on Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:18 pm

I just opened a new topic on Jonell Star and Joey Skaggs where all the info/links are there.

The parallelism in them is that Jonell/his hoax of art and Michael/his death hoax.
I think that's the point I got, IMO
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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:47 pm

just checked in on some frends there they see to be to some good leads hope reigns
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Post by Truth_or_Dare on Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:44 am

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Post by itsall4love on Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:47 am

Just saw that!!!!
This one is interesting really Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Icon_smile
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Post by itsall4love on Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:50 am

It's related to the YEAR ZERO alternate reality game. (ARG)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Zero_%28alternate_reality_game%29
Oh where are rubis1966 and emeraldcity now? They were very into the ARG theory.
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Post by neverlandprincess on Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:47 am

wow....even if this really has nothing to do with MJ-somebody is wanting to get their message across.
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Post by iLOVEu on Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:51 am

Art Is Resistance = AIR

Remember the MJ AIR balloon in the movie?
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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:57 am

good point
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Post by airieslady on Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:00 am

OMG... yes, the AIR balloon! God! This movie is nothing but clues put in there! So Michael is using his art to convey his message... will be the way of the future. What do you think? More movies!
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Post by itsall4love on Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:03 am

iLOVEu wrote:Art Is Resistance = AIR

Remember the MJ AIR balloon in the movie?

Brilliant iLOVEu. Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Herz
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Post by mjanna on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:52 pm

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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:57 pm

Am i thick what does it mean
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Post by MJLover1990 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:24 pm

iLOVEu wrote:Art Is Resistance = AIR

Remember the MJ AIR balloon in the movie?

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Post by LizzieBee on Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:46 am

Are you serious!?!?!? Lol...the MJ AIR thing. I was wondering what that was all about. Wow...so wait...where do we go from here?
www.thisisalsoit.com
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Post by LizzieBee on Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:48 am

Someone's playing with us...*snickers* Woo... Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Fresse
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Post by itsall4love on Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:40 am

Someone is playing for sure...
But I'm really enjoying it, to be honest. Makes things a lil bit more exciting Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Icon_biggrin
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Post by Styloprincess on Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:44 am

itsall4love wrote:Someone is playing for sure...
But I'm really enjoying it, to be honest. Makes things a lil bit more exciting Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Icon_biggrin

you're right Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Icon_rr
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Post by Kirsche on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:30 am

It now takes you to this site

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faked_death



this is all a bad joke !
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Post by dragonfly on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:54 am

I saw that today too. I did see that there was a reference to Michael on there too. Very interesting!! This is the third page that I have see that is different. The first one was V for Vendeta, I can't remember the name of the second one, and now Faked death. These are either clues or someone is messing around.
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:55 am

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Post by Kirsche on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:01 am

yes, I posted it already

funny huh? Very Happy
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:02 am

Kirsche wrote:yes, I posted it already

funny huh? Very Happy

opps lol sorry, I'm tired and didn't see your post hehe ! Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Icon_lol

yep pretty funny Wink
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Post by Kirsche on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:04 am

no problem...but this is going to be very weird....Is this all ja bad joke or are these clues?
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Post by Smelly on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:05 am

I find it quite funny Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Icon_biggrin
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Post by SearchingForTruths on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:13 am

I'm finding this all very strange and hilarious at the same time. Michael always was good with technology Cool
But really, are we sure it's a joke? It'd be great if it wasn't Very Happy
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Post by mjssoulmate on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:35 am

Question: Does anyone know when this website originated and what its original content was? Or was it just a link to MJHD?
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Post by See on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:29 pm

This is also it.com ------> MJKIT??? today LMAO Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 6 Lol
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Post by MJThrillsMe on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:37 pm

This is way too funny--everyday we end up to another site! Someone has to be playing with us!



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Post by DaduXLoveMJEver on Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:38 am

i just went to thisisalsoit.com and affraid affraid omg.... they are redirecting us....HERE  https://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-things-f8/this-is-also-it-t3233-50.htmbut why to that tread and not to this one? :scratch:and why to 3rd page? confused this is really weird Suspect . it's someone playing with us??! first MJHD, then all those sites and now...MJKIT....What a Face
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Post by missyoumuch on Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:51 am

this is very creepy and strange i hope its just someone playing with us first mjhd now here affraid
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Post by hesouttamylife on Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:30 am

Hopefully no one is targeting all the sites for a major viral hacking highway.
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Post by Grace on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:33 pm

SPAKKLE29FUL wrote:JUST BEEN TO IT IT I NOW SHOWING SOMETHING FROM YOUTUBE 9/11.ANOTHER THING HAS ANYBODY SEEN THIS SITE WWW.FINALCURTAIN.COM IFNOT CHECK IT OUT IT IS IN CONSTRUCTION VERY STRANGE WHAT DO YOU THINK LOVE TO HEAR

I was kind of too restricted it seems. If I post things you already know about, I beg your pardon in advance.
I am just a poor soul trying to understand what I obviously cannot LOL
I now will be digging into some aspects that were pointed out so far in this thread.
There were some new aspects in the redirecting links. We discussed Vendetta and Liberian Girl. MJHD is an old gammon already and ARG will be part of the game as soon as we are talking performance art.

Yes, MJ AIR balloon - I loved it, it jumped into my eyes the 2nd time watching for details.
K.O.: "now this is all sizzles, sizzles, sizzles, Smooth Criminal, the audience is going wild, the camera slowly
starts to go over the marquee" - and there it is hanging in the sky like a star: MJ AIR balloon. In the spotlight (and as the sawmask man waiting for the kids at the halloween party with a flashlight lamp).

Art is resistance. Yes it is, ever has been, ever will.

Performance Art
[from wiki]
[In performance art, usually one or more people perform in front of an
audience. In contrast to the traditional performing arts, performance
art is unconventional. Performance artists often challenge the audience
to think in new and unconventional ways about theater and performing,
break conventions of traditional performing arts, and break down
conventional ideas about "what art is," similar to the postmodern art movement.[1]
Thus, even though in most cases the performance is in front of an
audience, in some cases, the audience becomes the performers. The
performance may be scripted, unscripted, or improvisational. It may
incorporate music, dance, song, or complete silence.]

The final curtain
This is very interesting.

[from http://www.scribd.com/doc/19814719/Michael-Jackson-Biography]
In his 1988 autobiography "Moonwalk", Michael mentions that the Victory Tour was originally to be called "The FinalCurtain", to highlight the fact that himself and his brothers would be touring for the final time. However, the name was changed as they did not want to emphasize this point.
(Would he be back in July with the Jackson5?)

Looking at www.finalcurtain.com:
What are they about?
[
Historically, artists have always been on the vanguard of new ways of
thinking and behaving. Because The Final Curtain represents such a
fundamentally new way of thinking about the death-care market, we believe
that limiting our customer base to artists, at least in the initial
roll-out stages, will result in a higher quality product that will set new
standards for the death care industry.

Who better to establish this breakthrough approach to death-care than the
creative community itself? In association with The Final Curtain, artists,
writers and designers will have the opportunity to design truly innovative,
creative and thought provoking monuments to themselves and others, and know
that their work will be available to the public at large in perpetuity.
]


Did you see the media coverage site for this unconventional conventionalists' funeral service?
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There was a thread on MJHD about this in September that I could find in cache - credits go to S.T.U.D.Y. at MJHD - for those who did not see it:

"This Is It … The Final Curtain Call"
The "final curtain
call" is a very interesting phrase, which was used during the London
press conference for the O2 "This Is It" performances (note: even if it
was a double, MJ himself was still the author of the message given).


Here is a transcript of the key statement (at 4 min, 35 sec): "This is it, I mean this is really it; this is the final — this is the final curtain call." {
click here}. Let’s look at two aspects of that phrase: the "final curtain", and then the "curtain call".


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The "Final Curtain"
"Final Curtain" is the name of a hoax about death that was started in September of 1998! It was designed by Joey Skaggs, and you can read about it on the Museum of Hoaxes website {click here}; on the Final Curtain website {click here}; and on Skaggs’ own website {click here; also click here}. I have selected a few very interesting statements from these websites, as well as from a few other sources.

"In 1998, Skaggs put together an international team of volunteer writers, artists, and designers to create The Final Curtain … It was immediately accepted by the public as a reality without question. … Skaggs always leaves clues in his [hoax] performances." {click here}

"… the Final Curtain hoax was two years in the making, and involved dozens of co-conspirators. … Numerous talented writers and artists, some of whom prefer to remain anonymous for professional reasons, created an elaborate and convincing nonexistent virtual business under Skaggs’ creative direction." {click here}

"JOEY SKAGGS has been staging hoaxes—to lampoon the media, to lampoon the culture, but never to make money—for 34 years. Some hoaxes are huge and take place over the course of years THE SIGNS WERE THERE for journalists who doubted Final Curtain. But they didn't. … Part of participating in Final Curtain was agreeing to keep my mouth shut until it was time to reveal the hoax. … Final Curtain wasn't intended to make money; it was intended to draw attention to two issues—the media's wicked ways, as we've seen, and the death industry." {click here}

Wikipedia on Joey Skaggs: "The Final Curtain … It was meant to satirize showmanship in places likeForest Lawn cemeteries." {click here}

Although a different MJ, notice the name of a person who reported about the Final Curtain: "KRLA, CBS, Los Angeles, Michael Jackson, 10-25-1999" {click here; also click here}

"This [Final Curtain] was a really sophisticated prank with a lot of people involved. … Media hoaxing has a bright, promising future [after the year 2,000!?!]. All we can hope is that the hoaxers are smarter than the media." {click here}

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Final Curtain Hoax and MJ Hoax Parallels

#1 The hoaxes were directly related to "1998".
#2 The hoaxes were all about "death".
#3 The hoaxes had a large "team" involving "numerous talented co-conspirators" (all agreeing to secrecy until the time to remove the "curtain").
#4 The hoaxes were "huge", "elaborate", "sophisticated", and "convincing".
#5 Yet the hoax directors "always left clues" and "THE SIGNS WERE THERE" for the few who really wanted to know the truth.
#6 In spite of the clues, the hoaxes were "immediately accepted by the public as a reality without question".
#7 Both hoaxes had a person involved named "MICHAEL JACKSON"!
#8 Both hoaxes refer specifically to "Forest Lawn cemeteries".
#9 The purpose of these hoaxes is to draw public attention to the "media’s
wicked ways" (reporting as truth that which they have not carefully
investigated, etc).

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The "Curtain Call"
Notice the meaning of "curtain call" on Wikipedia (the word [hoax] is added): "A curtain call (walkdown, bow) occurs at the end of a [hoax] performance when individuals return to the stage to be recognized by the audience for their [hoax] performance." {click here}

Soon and very soon, we are going to see the man behind the (final) curtain (call); the King of Hoax! So can we expect the MJ "resurrection" today—the big "This Is It", "Final Curtain", 9-9-09 day??? Probably not before: "Darkness falls across the land, and the midnight hour is close at hand …" (Thriller).

Last but not least: This Is It—this is my final post (post # ?). You can believe it, or leave it; but either way: as the Final Curtain Call is being revealed, you will see what was there behind the curtain all along.

Some background on the other Michael Jackson from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson_%28radio_commentator%29:
[Michael Jackson is an English-born talk-show host based in the Los Angeles, California area. Jackson is best known for his radio show which covered the arts, politics
and human interest subjects, particularly in the Los Angeles and
greater Southern California area. The show originally aired on L.A. radio station KABC and briefly aired on KGIL.]
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This Is Also It.com is redirecting now to this forum! The "This Is Also It" topic... www.thisisalsoit.com doesn't exist here.
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