Jackson 911 Call Delayed For 'Over An Hour'
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Jackson 911 Call Delayed For 'Over An Hour'
From Sky News today:
Michael Jackson's private doctor waited over an hour to call emergency services when he realised the singer was not breathing, according to newly-released documents.
Police filed the documents to support their request to search a Las Vegas pharmacy in August.
They provide new insight into what happened on June 25, when the 50-year-old "King of Pop" went into cardiac arrest and died.
They state that Jackson's physician Conrad Murray told authorities he administered the anaesthetic propofol after trying other medications to help Jackson sleep, and after Jackson's "repeated demands" for the drug.
Jackson went into cardiac arrest within 20 minutes of that injection, while Murray had stepped out to use the bathroom, the doctor told authorities a few days after the death.
By Murray's own account to police, he did not call for help until 12:22 pm, more than an hour after he realised Jackson was not breathing.
Telephone records show that Murray used his mobile phone for 47 minutes, with three different callers, from 11:18am to 12:05pm, a period during which the doctor said he was conducting CPR.
"Murray did not mention this to the interviewing detectives," the documents state.
Police have not disclosed to whom they believe Murray spoke in those calls.
Police found medication bottles for at least eight different sedatives by Jackson's bed and around his home.
Dr Murray, 56, has not been charged with a crime, but the details in these documents show authorities were suspicious of his behaviour, even as they took Jackson to UCLA Medical Center to try to revive him.
Murray was asked to sign the death certificate but vanished from the hospital premises.
"Upon arrival at UCLA Medical Center, neither the coroner's investigators nor detectives could locate Murray to re-interview him," according to the documents.
Repeated attempts to contact him were unsuccessful.
Propofol is usually used in medical settings by anaesthesia professionals to render patients unconscious for surgery. Officials say it is not meant for use as a sleep agent.
However, the milky liquid drug is not regulated as a controlled substance in the US.
Michael Jackson's private doctor waited over an hour to call emergency services when he realised the singer was not breathing, according to newly-released documents.
Police filed the documents to support their request to search a Las Vegas pharmacy in August.
They provide new insight into what happened on June 25, when the 50-year-old "King of Pop" went into cardiac arrest and died.
They state that Jackson's physician Conrad Murray told authorities he administered the anaesthetic propofol after trying other medications to help Jackson sleep, and after Jackson's "repeated demands" for the drug.
Jackson went into cardiac arrest within 20 minutes of that injection, while Murray had stepped out to use the bathroom, the doctor told authorities a few days after the death.
By Murray's own account to police, he did not call for help until 12:22 pm, more than an hour after he realised Jackson was not breathing.
Telephone records show that Murray used his mobile phone for 47 minutes, with three different callers, from 11:18am to 12:05pm, a period during which the doctor said he was conducting CPR.
"Murray did not mention this to the interviewing detectives," the documents state.
Police have not disclosed to whom they believe Murray spoke in those calls.
Police found medication bottles for at least eight different sedatives by Jackson's bed and around his home.
Dr Murray, 56, has not been charged with a crime, but the details in these documents show authorities were suspicious of his behaviour, even as they took Jackson to UCLA Medical Center to try to revive him.
Murray was asked to sign the death certificate but vanished from the hospital premises.
"Upon arrival at UCLA Medical Center, neither the coroner's investigators nor detectives could locate Murray to re-interview him," according to the documents.
Repeated attempts to contact him were unsuccessful.
Propofol is usually used in medical settings by anaesthesia professionals to render patients unconscious for surgery. Officials say it is not meant for use as a sleep agent.
However, the milky liquid drug is not regulated as a controlled substance in the US.
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so what do we make of this then!! Murray has been in court the other day over
the child support things!!
so have they STILL not found him!! i smell a rat!!
the child support things!!
so have they STILL not found him!! i smell a rat!!
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Why are so on this about his child support if he has done a crime that should be what they need to be dealing with. I find that reallllllllllyyyy strange.
Give me a break!!
Give me a break!!
Re: Jackson 911 Call Delayed For 'Over An Hour'
Are you sure this article is from today? Seems to me I have read the exact same article before.
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lisap27 wrote:so what do we make of this then!! Murray has been in court the other day over
the child support things!!
so have they STILL not found him!! i smell a rat!!
I agree!! He was in court and they STILL can't find him?!?!? What's that about guys? The man was in court for goodness sakes! What is it going to take to find him? The secret service? I smell a rat too!
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infinitylady wrote:Why are so on this about his child support if he has done a crime that should be what they need to be dealing with. I find that reallllllllllyyyy strange.
Give me a break!!
I know, it's more important to focus on child support then dealing with a crime. He supposedly killed the King Of Pop Michael Jackson!! Isn't murder more important then child support? The man should be in jail by now and he's still free!!! All the more to believe that MJ is alive! Give me a freaking break!
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infinitylady wrote:Why are so on this about his child support if he has done a crime that should be what they need to be dealing with. I find that reallllllllllyyyy strange.
Give me a break!!
I'm wondering the same, just like that 'they can't find him' thing....
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Re: Jackson 911 Call Delayed For 'Over An Hour'
Really? If authorities were so suspicious of Murray's behavior, then why did they take so long to launch an official investigation?Dr Murray, 56, has not been charged with a crime, but the details in these documents show authorities were suspicious of his behaviour, even as they took Jackson to UCLA Medical Center to try to revive him.
Time is of the essence if you suspect foul play in a death, so that observation makes you wonder exactly what was responsible for the LAPD's delay.
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mjssoulmate wrote:Are you sure this article is from today? Seems to me I have read the exact same article before.
Yep, definitely today.
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Re: Jackson 911 Call Delayed For 'Over An Hour'
This much on timelines (all material we discussed already):
credit to smiles78 at MJHD:
[Time Line
1:30 am Gave MJ 10mg Valium
2:00 am Gave MJ 2mg Ativan (normal is .5 – 1 mg)
3:00 am Gave MJ 2mg Versed
5:00 am Gave MJ 2mg Ativan
7:30 am Gave MJ 2mg Versed
10:40 am Gave MJ 25mg Propofol
10:50 am Dr. M left the room to use the bathroom.
10:52 am Dr. M returned to the room to find MJ not
breathing.
*Between 10:52 am – 12:22pm Murry gave MJ .2mg of
Flumanezil, called Michael Amir Williams (MJ’s personal assistant) using HIS
cell phone. When he
spoke to Willaims he asked that he send security upstairs. Murray continued
CPR, then ran down stairs (leaving MJ upstairs alone) to get help. He asked the
chef to send up Prince (MJ’s oldest son) upstairs. Murray then went upstairs
and started CPR again. Shortly after Prince came upstairs, Dr Murray’s
assistant, Alberto Alverez called 911.
12:22 pm The Paramedics are called to MJ’s house
2:26 pm MJ was pronounced dead at UCLA Medical Center by
Dr. R. Cooper (physical in charge of the Emergency Department).
So it took Dr. Murry 90 minutes to call 911 after he found
MJ not breathing. From the time Dr. Murray found MJ to the time he was
pronounced was over 3 ½ hours. Why would they continue CPR, and continue to
revive a man who has been down for over 3 ½ hours? Not to mention that he gave
enough medication between 1 am and 7:30 am to knock out a very large adult.
All information was taken from Documents released by TMZ
(on a link on their website) regarding the Search Warrants for Dr. Murray.]
That must have killed a rodeo bull, an angry tiger and an elephant in his hormone peak
all together - each hour another sleeping, relaxing, anaestesia, calming, coma
relief like drug ??
--------------
Some of the links may not work anymore:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..-important
This is a classy thread on the technical data of the pic (EXIF Data) (I remarked: Nikon camera D200, a model of a digital reflex camerafor professional use, image software used is ADOBE Fireworks CS3 and Adobe XMP 4.1 from 2007)
NIKON CORPORATION
NIKON
D200
2009-06-25T23:31:53Z(last time modified on PC, likely before start of paper printing)
Adobe Fireworks CS3
2009-06-25T16:22:43-07:00 (put on PC)
2009-06-25T16:22:43-07:00
2009-06-25T12:08:08-07:00(taken with camera at camera time)
2009-06-25T12:08:08-07:00
If time in the camera was set correctly (which is usually the case for professional photographs),
The picture was taken 12:08
They called 911 at 12:21 http://x17online.com/celebrities/michael_jackson/x17_xclusive_the_ambulance_report_on_the_day_michael_jackson_died-07042009.php
And the paramedics arrived
at 12:26 (source http://www.telegraph.co.uk)
There is a time difference
from 12:08 untill 12:26
That's 18 minutes time to take the ambulance picture before the paramedics arrive.
the original link to the pic is this:
http://www.etonline.com/media/…..090625.jpg
credit to smiles78 at MJHD:
[Time Line
1:30 am Gave MJ 10mg Valium
2:00 am Gave MJ 2mg Ativan (normal is .5 – 1 mg)
3:00 am Gave MJ 2mg Versed
5:00 am Gave MJ 2mg Ativan
7:30 am Gave MJ 2mg Versed
10:40 am Gave MJ 25mg Propofol
10:50 am Dr. M left the room to use the bathroom.
10:52 am Dr. M returned to the room to find MJ not
breathing.
*Between 10:52 am – 12:22pm Murry gave MJ .2mg of
Flumanezil, called Michael Amir Williams (MJ’s personal assistant) using HIS
cell phone. When he
spoke to Willaims he asked that he send security upstairs. Murray continued
CPR, then ran down stairs (leaving MJ upstairs alone) to get help. He asked the
chef to send up Prince (MJ’s oldest son) upstairs. Murray then went upstairs
and started CPR again. Shortly after Prince came upstairs, Dr Murray’s
assistant, Alberto Alverez called 911.
12:22 pm The Paramedics are called to MJ’s house
2:26 pm MJ was pronounced dead at UCLA Medical Center by
Dr. R. Cooper (physical in charge of the Emergency Department).
So it took Dr. Murry 90 minutes to call 911 after he found
MJ not breathing. From the time Dr. Murray found MJ to the time he was
pronounced was over 3 ½ hours. Why would they continue CPR, and continue to
revive a man who has been down for over 3 ½ hours? Not to mention that he gave
enough medication between 1 am and 7:30 am to knock out a very large adult.
All information was taken from Documents released by TMZ
(on a link on their website) regarding the Search Warrants for Dr. Murray.]
That must have killed a rodeo bull, an angry tiger and an elephant in his hormone peak
all together - each hour another sleeping, relaxing, anaestesia, calming, coma
relief like drug ??
--------------
Some of the links may not work anymore:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..-important
This is a classy thread on the technical data of the pic (EXIF Data) (I remarked: Nikon camera D200, a model of a digital reflex camerafor professional use, image software used is ADOBE Fireworks CS3 and Adobe XMP 4.1 from 2007)
NIKON CORPORATION
NIKON
D200
2009-06-25T23:31:53Z(last time modified on PC, likely before start of paper printing)
Adobe Fireworks CS3
2009-06-25T16:22:43-07:00 (put on PC)
2009-06-25T16:22:43-07:00
2009-06-25T12:08:08-07:00(taken with camera at camera time)
2009-06-25T12:08:08-07:00
If time in the camera was set correctly (which is usually the case for professional photographs),
The picture was taken 12:08
They called 911 at 12:21 http://x17online.com/celebrities/michael_jackson/x17_xclusive_the_ambulance_report_on_the_day_michael_jackson_died-07042009.php
And the paramedics arrived
at 12:26 (source http://www.telegraph.co.uk)
There is a time difference
from 12:08 untill 12:26
That's 18 minutes time to take the ambulance picture before the paramedics arrive.
the original link to the pic is this:
http://www.etonline.com/media/…..090625.jpg
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By Murray's own account to police, he did not call for help until 12:22 pm, more than an hour after he realised Jackson was not breathing.
It's enough reason for him to be accused...
It's enough reason for him to be accused...
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Re: Jackson 911 Call Delayed For 'Over An Hour'
In the first call we were fed there was a woman's voice (some thought it was Michael) saying "one more minute".
Murray cannot be accused because he did not kill Michael.
Murray was hired for many reasons but certainly not to kill Michael in fact.
Publicly "as if" yes.
Keep the faith.
L.O.V.E.
Murray cannot be accused because he did not kill Michael.
Murray was hired for many reasons but certainly not to kill Michael in fact.
Publicly "as if" yes.
Keep the faith.
L.O.V.E.
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i'm just confused with the whole thing!!
we need a concrete report of what happend!! why is there so many discrepensies with the whole TIME thing!!
where talkin about MICHAEL JACKSON!! there is either some definate clues with the whole thing OR some really disrespectful, heartless, an god knows i could think of some other words!!
down right nasty people out there!!
my mind boggles at every time, date, photo.. EVERYTHING!! pffttt
i just don't know what to make of it anymore!! not saying i DON'T BELIEVE.. but its just gettin ridiculous!!
oh my head an heart hurts!!!
we need a concrete report of what happend!! why is there so many discrepensies with the whole TIME thing!!
where talkin about MICHAEL JACKSON!! there is either some definate clues with the whole thing OR some really disrespectful, heartless, an god knows i could think of some other words!!
down right nasty people out there!!
my mind boggles at every time, date, photo.. EVERYTHING!! pffttt
i just don't know what to make of it anymore!! not saying i DON'T BELIEVE.. but its just gettin ridiculous!!
oh my head an heart hurts!!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIvTCIoVyAg
^^ thats the recording from Ralphige who prank called Michael. Either Michael is putting on a voice or he has one of those voice-altering machines. Is it me or can you hear similarities between Michael's put-on voine in that and the voice on the 911 call?
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^^ thats the recording from Ralphige who prank called Michael. Either Michael is putting on a voice or he has one of those voice-altering machines. Is it me or can you hear similarities between Michael's put-on voine in that and the voice on the 911 call?
xx
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just to add.. weve seen Michael adapt his voice in Ghosts as well..
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