I THINK WE ARE MISSING A VERY BIG CLUE....
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I THINK WE ARE MISSING A VERY BIG CLUE....
hey guys,
I was thinking yesterday after reading a couple of posts. One of them was posted here by someone who had a link from MJHD in where another person posted that we need to focus our attention on the blonde lady and that the answer/clue is in front of our noses. Well, how long have we discussed AA woman and hatman? A long time now and no one can figure out which one isMJ...if he IS indeed one of them. I think we are split 50/50 on who we think which one MJ is. This is what got me thinking. Of course we dont know who the poster ( I dont think) was or even if she is credible, but here is what I thought.
Last night it struck me that we are missing a very important clue. It is so obvious that we simply ignored it.
I dont know what this clue could be, thats why we all need to take a little bit and think.
Let me give you an example. Lets say you have valubles in your home and you dont have a safe to put these things in in case your house gets robbed. Well, if youre smart you will put these valubles in a spot where robbers would NEVER THINK TO LOOK....in an empty food box in the freezer or fridge, behind a book on the bookshelf. up in a cupboard behind the spices ...somewhere that would be too obvious and a robber would overlook. They turn over everything in your house to find the valubles but they leave empty handed. Why? Because your valubles are hidden in plain site and they never thought to look there.
Well this is what I think is going on. We are being bombarded with news from the media and we are picking it apart on a daily basis, yet we are overlooking a critical factor. Its being done on purpose. News from the family, dates of the concert,movie, burial, JCC etc....ALL of those things have been investigated in depth by us. But we are NOT looking at something that is quite obvious. We think/ know Mj is behind the scenes "directing" all of this right? Well, on his end, we cannot continue until we figure this out. That may be why dates have been changed continuously. This is just my observation guys and sorry if I seem wacked in the head, but think about it.
Our attention is so focused on where we THINK we should look, but not where the real clue is. Get what I mean?
We have been given clues left and right,but we have still missed the most important one.
I think we all need to step back and THINK about what we could have missed..and think HARD, because its probably somethng that will make you think "WTF? How come we missed this!?!?!"
Im telling you...Ive got a very STRONG feeling about this.
I was thinking yesterday after reading a couple of posts. One of them was posted here by someone who had a link from MJHD in where another person posted that we need to focus our attention on the blonde lady and that the answer/clue is in front of our noses. Well, how long have we discussed AA woman and hatman? A long time now and no one can figure out which one isMJ...if he IS indeed one of them. I think we are split 50/50 on who we think which one MJ is. This is what got me thinking. Of course we dont know who the poster ( I dont think) was or even if she is credible, but here is what I thought.
Last night it struck me that we are missing a very important clue. It is so obvious that we simply ignored it.
I dont know what this clue could be, thats why we all need to take a little bit and think.
Let me give you an example. Lets say you have valubles in your home and you dont have a safe to put these things in in case your house gets robbed. Well, if youre smart you will put these valubles in a spot where robbers would NEVER THINK TO LOOK....in an empty food box in the freezer or fridge, behind a book on the bookshelf. up in a cupboard behind the spices ...somewhere that would be too obvious and a robber would overlook. They turn over everything in your house to find the valubles but they leave empty handed. Why? Because your valubles are hidden in plain site and they never thought to look there.
Well this is what I think is going on. We are being bombarded with news from the media and we are picking it apart on a daily basis, yet we are overlooking a critical factor. Its being done on purpose. News from the family, dates of the concert,movie, burial, JCC etc....ALL of those things have been investigated in depth by us. But we are NOT looking at something that is quite obvious. We think/ know Mj is behind the scenes "directing" all of this right? Well, on his end, we cannot continue until we figure this out. That may be why dates have been changed continuously. This is just my observation guys and sorry if I seem wacked in the head, but think about it.
Our attention is so focused on where we THINK we should look, but not where the real clue is. Get what I mean?
We have been given clues left and right,but we have still missed the most important one.
I think we all need to step back and THINK about what we could have missed..and think HARD, because its probably somethng that will make you think "WTF? How come we missed this!?!?!"
Im telling you...Ive got a very STRONG feeling about this.
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That would be sooo funny if it turns out it was right in front of our faces the WHOLE time lol
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Well spoken jacksonologist and grace...
But currently...my head is smoking...
can't think clearly...
read too much bs over the last few weeks..
can't divide what's true...what's false
Then there's one report...you think about it...come to conclusion...
then a twist...
the latest news is old news...
and you have to start at the scratch again...
I experience this over 7 weeks...it's exhausting...
but I'm glad that there are ppl here on our forum, who are still clear headed
But currently...my head is smoking...
can't think clearly...
read too much bs over the last few weeks..
can't divide what's true...what's false
Then there's one report...you think about it...come to conclusion...
then a twist...
the latest news is old news...
and you have to start at the scratch again...
I experience this over 7 weeks...it's exhausting...
but I'm glad that there are ppl here on our forum, who are still clear headed
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I have many theories as to what I believe is the "answer" that is right under our nose. Some of them are a little wacky and others are more simple.
We could argue until we are blue in the face about what this could be but I don't think we will ever know. There were so many slip ups at the memorial it could honestly be anything.
We could argue until we are blue in the face about what this could be but I don't think we will ever know. There were so many slip ups at the memorial it could honestly be anything.
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Rachel,
That is exactly my pont. It could be ANYTHING, but it is something we have overlokked. Forget about hatman and Adams apple shemale for a second.
the IS something we havent loked at. I know that tot ry and figure out what it is is very daunting indeed, but we have to try and think ifwe overlooked anything. And it will be obvious.
That is exactly my pont. It could be ANYTHING, but it is something we have overlokked. Forget about hatman and Adams apple shemale for a second.
the IS something we havent loked at. I know that tot ry and figure out what it is is very daunting indeed, but we have to try and think ifwe overlooked anything. And it will be obvious.
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Ok Adams Apple Shemale is too funny!!!
I am no longer concentrating on the blonde woman or hat man because I think for the moment we have gone as far as we can with them. My attentions at the moment are turned to the family and the guests who were at the memorial. I don't think that this has been looked at as much as it could have done. However these are just MY thoughts. I believe that the family hold the clue to this whole thing.
I am no longer concentrating on the blonde woman or hat man because I think for the moment we have gone as far as we can with them. My attentions at the moment are turned to the family and the guests who were at the memorial. I don't think that this has been looked at as much as it could have done. However these are just MY thoughts. I believe that the family hold the clue to this whole thing.
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@ grace: Ok...one thing makes it sooooo difficult for me to enjoy this
crazy ride in this "rollercoaster"
One word: UNCERTAINTY
This drives me nuts...
and so my mind is blocked to think clear....
crazy ride in this "rollercoaster"
One word: UNCERTAINTY
This drives me nuts...
and so my mind is blocked to think clear....
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There are twists in every story we're being told. The family keep delaying the burial, the toxicolgy reports are delayed and just when they announce to the world that they'll release the results or set a date for the burial they cancel again. Why bother announcing anything if it won't go ahead - "just to keep MJ in the news"
Look at Dr. Murray we hear nothing about him for a while and question if he even exists and then all of a sudden he's leaving a message on youtube for his "supporters" and then we're told he'll be charged. I mean at the start he was a witness then he was a suspect then he was just a witness again and now he's being charged 'cos a "source" says so. No official has spoken to us only a "source" or "insider"
I really feel like this an amateur case.
I feel like i'm in the middle of a reality show!!!!
Look at Dr. Murray we hear nothing about him for a while and question if he even exists and then all of a sudden he's leaving a message on youtube for his "supporters" and then we're told he'll be charged. I mean at the start he was a witness then he was a suspect then he was just a witness again and now he's being charged 'cos a "source" says so. No official has spoken to us only a "source" or "insider"
I really feel like this an amateur case.
I feel like i'm in the middle of a reality show!!!!
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Okay. No judging me.
We've noticed that after we've mentioned/questioned things here, "all the sudden" TMZ posts something related or we read twitters pertaining to Michael.....a lot of things "seem" to come out of left field. BUT...imagine....WE are the ones writing the story....and until we figure out the next clue, we're going to get a bunch of conflicting stories coming out. Does this make sense? (makes sense to me, but as I'm typing it here I'm not sure it's clear...)
I too am thinking there IS something to a clue being "hidden in plain sight." I agree....we need to step back, TRUST your heart, your gut, or whatever IT is that makes you come to the conclusion that Michael is alive....
I think we're getting closer...and I CAN see the possibility of the "burial" and the movie happening on the same day......one gets moved back and the other gets moved up.
And remember, through our search for the truth, this has brought us all TOGETHER AS ONE!
Have FAITH...... TRUST...
We've noticed that after we've mentioned/questioned things here, "all the sudden" TMZ posts something related or we read twitters pertaining to Michael.....a lot of things "seem" to come out of left field. BUT...imagine....WE are the ones writing the story....and until we figure out the next clue, we're going to get a bunch of conflicting stories coming out. Does this make sense? (makes sense to me, but as I'm typing it here I'm not sure it's clear...)
I too am thinking there IS something to a clue being "hidden in plain sight." I agree....we need to step back, TRUST your heart, your gut, or whatever IT is that makes you come to the conclusion that Michael is alive....
I think we're getting closer...and I CAN see the possibility of the "burial" and the movie happening on the same day......one gets moved back and the other gets moved up.
And remember, through our search for the truth, this has brought us all TOGETHER AS ONE!
Have FAITH...... TRUST...
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maybe like the illusive clue, mj is hiding in plain sight, my question is are we supposed to find out? what i mean is everything waiting on us, as in those who believe he is alive, to figure this all out, or are we supposed to be just guessing until he returns? if he plans to return at all
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Grace wrote:Well said, thank you.
I do not believe in the blonde lady - she has women's legs. Michael's legs would have been to thin for a lady. And if you want to judge a lady from a man, look at the knees. Men's knees are made of sharp bones, women's knees are round.
For these reasons I would rather go with the old man (also for Jermaine's story who is the most obvious declaration of "I'd like to unmask you if I only could". )
In Agatha Christie's stories it's always the gardener or the housekeeper.
But I don't think that these are the things Michael would like to do. Why not the nanny of his kids? But how about travelling then, how about his professional life? This one cannot leave behind as if it was nothing. Retirement? House for the elderly? hmmmm... what do people do when they retire? Take care of a garden, a house in spain or in the carribean, a dog, travel the world they could not see, world tour on a yacht? Got to foreign countries, live with people in different cultures. Who got older, got wiser. Spiritual enlightenment in India just like the beatles? A Hadsh to Mekka? In which month will we have Ramaddan this year? September / October?
Let's get a brainstorm of what a retired Michael would be fond of doing....
I completely agree with what everyone has been saying. There is something big, huge even and all along I've felt that it's right there and obvious - but it's pinpointing exactly what it is which is the problem. It's like it's right there in front of us but also impossible to identify, right on the tips of our peripherals.
@Grace - Ramadan started today - Saturday 22 August and will go on for the next 29/30 days depending on the moon. Islam runs on the Lunar Calendar.
The Hajj Pilgrimage to Mecca will be in around 2-3 months time, by my Calendar it will start on November 18th 2009.
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Grace wrote:
Is this too strange, do you feel it as I do?
I know what you mean, Grace. It's a feeling hard to describe but it's there and more prominent than ever.
There is something going on but we have yet to figure out what...and I don't think it will be that easy.
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It's like MJ wants to see if we can think for ourselves and not be brainwashed by the media. I think his song "Will you be there" is very fitting for what's going on now and I feel this was a clue at the memorial not just the part at the end where he talks but the whole song.
Will we be there for him????????
Weary
Tell Me Will You Hold Me
When Wrong, Will You Skold Me
When Lost Will You Find Me?
But They Told Me
A Man Should Be Faithful
And Walk When Not Able
And Fight Till The End
But I'm Only Human
Everyone's Taking Control Of Me
Seems That The World's
Got A Role For Me
I'm So Confused
Will You Show To Me
You'll Be There For Me
And Care Enough To Bear Me
Also the clip of his last reheasal where is it Martin Luther King speaks? I've watched a lot of MJ's live performances of that song and I haven't heard that part in any of them only his last rehearsal
"In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation!
It's got me wondering is this something???????
Will we be there for him????????
Weary
Tell Me Will You Hold Me
When Wrong, Will You Skold Me
When Lost Will You Find Me?
But They Told Me
A Man Should Be Faithful
And Walk When Not Able
And Fight Till The End
But I'm Only Human
Everyone's Taking Control Of Me
Seems That The World's
Got A Role For Me
I'm So Confused
Will You Show To Me
You'll Be There For Me
And Care Enough To Bear Me
Also the clip of his last reheasal where is it Martin Luther King speaks? I've watched a lot of MJ's live performances of that song and I haven't heard that part in any of them only his last rehearsal
"In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation!
It's got me wondering is this something???????
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@ishealive
It might be something.
"...the greatest demonstration of freedom..:"
It might be something.
"...the greatest demonstration of freedom..:"
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@ishealive - That quote was used in his HIStory album on the title track 'History' along with a bunch of other quotes.
The rehearsal footage released is edited so it's actually 2 songs spliced together - History and They don't really care about us.
The rehearsal footage released is edited so it's actually 2 songs spliced together - History and They don't really care about us.
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Thanks APOM clears that bit up. Just have to keep searching...
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EXACTLY -- HIStory & They Don't Really Care About Us!!
I mentioned that part of the "promo" -- "In What Will Go Down In History As The Greatest Demonstration Of Freedom In The History Of Our Nation" -- a couple weeks ago.
None of this is a coincidence....these words were "shared" w/ us for a reason. It's a huge clue.
....fake your death to wake up a nation -- Global Consciousness...
I mentioned that part of the "promo" -- "In What Will Go Down In History As The Greatest Demonstration Of Freedom In The History Of Our Nation" -- a couple weeks ago.
None of this is a coincidence....these words were "shared" w/ us for a reason. It's a huge clue.
....fake your death to wake up a nation -- Global Consciousness...
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MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs wrote:EXACTLY -- HIStory & They Don't Really Care About Us!!
I mentioned that part of the "promo" -- "In What Will Go Down In History As The Greatest Demonstration Of Freedom In The History Of Our Nation" -- a couple weeks ago.
None of this is a coincidence....these words were "shared" w/ us for a reason. It's a huge clue.
....fake your death to wake up a nation -- Global Consciousness...
I do agree that there was a reason for AEG to release that song. Out of all the songs this was one of MJ's most cotroversial, they could have released Billie Jean or Thriller if they were trying to prove that MJ could still dance as good as ever but I think it had nothing to do with the dancing or singing it was a message they were sending out.
"In What Will Go Down In History As The Greatest Demonstration Of Freedom In The History Of Our Nation".
I think this is a big fat clue.
Oh god I've got a headache from all of his - my brain isn't used of such hard work lol...
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@JACKSONOLOGIST - You know ... you are right - most people have valuables in front of the robber and they never catch on to it until the last minute - Old man was my first choice but The AA Woman I was skeptical ... but Maybe their is a another odd character in the crowd - we need to check it out the Memorial again or go way back and we recount our steps.
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Good points! Again he is playing the game based on "hiding in plain sight".
When the mystery has been solved, we will all definitely have our moment when we slap ourselves on the forehead and shout "Duh!!!".
When the mystery has been solved, we will all definitely have our moment when we slap ourselves on the forehead and shout "Duh!!!".
THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:hey guys,
I was thinking yesterday after reading a couple of posts. One of them was posted here by someone who had a link from MJHD in where another person posted that we need to focus our attention on the blonde lady and that the answer/clue is in front of our noses. Well, how long have we discussed AA woman and hatman? A long time now and no one can figure out which one isMJ...if he IS indeed one of them. I think we are split 50/50 on who we think which one MJ is. This is what got me thinking. Of course we dont know who the poster ( I dont think) was or even if she is credible, but here is what I thought.
Last night it struck me that we are missing a very important clue. It is so obvious that we simply ignored it.
I dont know what this clue could be, thats why we all need to take a little bit and think.
Let me give you an example. Lets say you have valubles in your home and you dont have a safe to put these things in in case your house gets robbed. Well, if youre smart you will put these valubles in a spot where robbers would NEVER THINK TO LOOK....in an empty food box in the freezer or fridge, behind a book on the bookshelf. up in a cupboard behind the spices ...somewhere that would be too obvious and a robber would overlook. They turn over everything in your house to find the valubles but they leave empty handed. Why? Because your valubles are hidden in plain site and they never thought to look there.
Well this is what I think is going on. We are being bombarded with news from the media and we are picking it apart on a daily basis, yet we are overlooking a critical factor. Its being done on purpose. News from the family, dates of the concert,movie, burial, JCC etc....ALL of those things have been investigated in depth by us. But we are NOT looking at something that is quite obvious. We think/ know Mj is behind the scenes "directing" all of this right? Well, on his end, we cannot continue until we figure this out. That may be why dates have been changed continuously. This is just my observation guys and sorry if I seem wacked in the head, but think about it.
Our attention is so focused on where we THINK we should look, but not where the real clue is. Get what I mean?
We have been given clues left and right,but we have still missed the most important one.
I think we all need to step back and THINK about what we could have missed..and think HARD, because its probably somethng that will make you think "WTF? How come we missed this!?!?!"
Im telling you...Ive got a very STRONG feeling about this.
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