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Post by Baby on Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:01 am

I'm sorry if this been point out before.

Look at the different hand & ceiling!
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See the different?
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Post by just_friend on Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:07 am

Yes, well, they are trying to confuse us! bounce


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Post by ilprincipe on Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:12 am

Thanks for the catch baby....
I read that in a german forum..and -maybe I didn't finde the right vids-
I compared two vids...about 30 times in exactly this part of the scene...
and I couldn't spot a difference...

I'm really grateful that you found that Very Happy
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:21 am

is that guy in the first photo wearing a short sleeved shirt? cause you can clearly tell that the dude in the 'real' video is wearing a SUIT type coat...

so uh yeah RTL=FAIL!
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:25 am

also- who else thinks the doors look different sizes? the 'fake' one looks much smaller...
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Post by ilprincipe on Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:33 am

could be a different angle, missdahmer...

but I've been suspicous since RTL claimed they made the vid.
watched their poor "making of" on thursday evening
and wasn't convinced..
I'm still not convinced and happy that here is some kind of evidence which proves
that RTL lied.
I also noticed that the presenter (Nazan Eckes) seemed very very nervous,
when she announced the vid.
I know her from other tv shows...she's normally laid back...sometimes a bit aloof
but this time ..she seemed really to be under pressure...
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:36 am

all I know is they made a fake of the video and pretended that they made the video that got leaked. who knows, maybe Michael wanted them to... so people would forget about the REAL video; and so his faked death plans won't be ruined or speculated. even though a lot of the public and media already knows about it. but I'm not falling for RTL having actually MADE the video.. they simply re-created it. but for what purpose? that remains to be seen.
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:42 am

I knew two different vids ... I had that feeling ... the video wasn't fake ... but switch at a angle ....
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Post by ilprincipe on Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:44 am

I have no idea.....thought about that since 2-3 days....what's the intense?
and I posted it in another thread.
Was it really necessary to create such a vid or claim to have created it
ONLY to show the world that conspiracy theorists are some kind of nerds?
And why of all things did they pick the MJ believer?
We are a absolute minority!!!
The real big deal is doubting about New World Order, freemasons, the moon landing, word
jewry, JFK....there are so many subjects which may be more threatening for
some persons than that MJ subject-i guess max. 5 % of the world population- doubts
about MJs death.
A lot more questioning the other subjects I named....
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Post by CantStopLovingU on Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:54 am

The thing that gets me mad is for the people who were on the fence about the video, you know how it goes ... "Oh I heard that a channel in Europe made that video, it's fake" and thats it! They wont question or analyze it at all. The accept what they "heard" as a fact and the truth. Its just how people are.
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Post by Human_nature on Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:01 am

Wherever, whatever, have a nice day !


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Post by Speechless on Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:24 am

Thanks, baby. I think the "line"(DK the name in engl) between the left wall and the floor is different as well as the space between the van and the right wall. The structure of the left walls seems a little different too.
IDK if it´s because of dif angles, lights...
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Post by IWSICS on Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:42 pm

guys, no way is that different because of the angle. The 'fake' has a complete diagnol vent above the door and the real one has a perfect straight- it would only be a TINY difference due to angle- not that! And for the rehearsal theory- sure, he could have been wearing a shirt that time.. but still doesnt explain the vent AND the bricks. Im sure they only made ONE set (and this was shown in that video, right?) so why is this one so different. OH YESSS, we know why.
cos' they lied!

I asked the guys on youtube if it was a rehersal too.. i'll keep ya posted!


but.. wait one second... this could only mean ONE thing, if this is NOT a fake then he REALLY is alive! affraid affraid affraid
i mean, i have always been 50/50... believe nothing, question everything. I just did not know, but this could really be it! ( no punn intended! Smile ) Like for real?
pardon my excitement, but if this is the real deal.. holy jeeez, not long now.
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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:45 pm

OMG. Im gonna die if thats true
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Post by IWSICS on Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:46 pm

MyBelovedMJ wrote:OMG. Im gonna die if thats true

Imma' scream! Very Happy
My heart is telling me this is real, but i dont know.

HERES HOPING! flower
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Post by IWSICS on Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:02 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k&feature=email

please check out the lastest comments left by


chaaaaarlottee and the replys from


MUZIKfactory2

ps, yes it's me! haha Smile

so, this has debunked that there was ever a rehearsal released, which can only mean one thing... Very Happy
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Post by emanviam on Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:37 pm

OK, I found the video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k

My husband knows german...they are basically saying that they did the video...and they show here how they did it, the previous "reharsal" of the video and the actual video...

So the man pointing with the right hand is the same man....he is just rehearsing...(a video of the rehearsal before the actually shoot the final video) and the man pointing to the left is the actual original video shown everywhere.

So, it proves that the video is fake.

As fake as a 3 dollar bill.

Believe me...I so want my angel to be alive...and HE IS...buuuuut...I am not going to create false ideas on my mind because that's not the way I want to clear this mess.

He is alive! And this assh*les did play with our hearts doing this horrible video...


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Post by Loree on Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:43 pm

so the two videos are fake?? Question
I'm really confused right now :/
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Post by emanviam on Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:46 pm

Yes, they were both made it by the same group of morons...it's just that they showed the rehearsed video and also the video that they released...
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Post by IWSICS on Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:56 pm

woah, just been on TMZ.

22% of people think the video is real out of 155,725

THATS
22% of 155 725 = 34 260!

WOW, nearly 35'000 people are believing.. and thats JUST on TMZ. Just thought Id share Smile
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Post by DONNALOVESMJ on Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:36 pm

<table border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><tr><td colSpan=2>I STILL BELIEVE THIS IS THE LIVELEAK REAL VIDEO,
READ THIS AND COMPARE.
CREDIT TO CC FROM MJHD

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/general-discussion/proof-that-rtl-didnt-make-the-coroners-van-video

THE LIVELEAK IS REAL everyone.
the coroner removed the sticker underneith the license plate, and when you look at the van entering the parking lot there is no sticker,

the RTL video is a re enactment not the real deal.

they did almost the same thing but not quite.
if the video is not real then why in the world the coroner removed the sticker that is supposed to stay in place underneith the license plate?

can you explain why ?


here is the photo that was taken from the heli body unload
you can see the sticker is there on the picture and not on the still pic from the video GO CHECK THE PIC HERE


http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/hoax-death/maybe-nothing-but-please-look

now here is another real deal coroner van , different license plate but the real deal.

you can see the sticker that is supposed to be there located undernieth the license plate.

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also now compare the fox news youtube at 6:18 you can clearly see the coroner worker remove the sticker from the back of the van , the sticker is located underneith the license plate just like the real coroner van above.

the RTL VIDEO IS A RE ENACTMENT OF THE REAL VIDEO TO COVER THE REAL VIDEO UP.

TAKE A LOOK AT THIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N0Ogaskv88&feature=related

MJ AND HIS PEOPLE FREAKED OUT THEY MADE SOME CALLS.
TO THE GERMAN MEDIA CAUSE THEY HAVE MORE CONNECTION IN GERMANY , THE AMERICAN MEDIA WOULD USE THIS REAL VIDEO TO BOOST THEIR RATINGS, AND FAME.

IT'S CALLED THE AMERICAN SCOOP MEDIA BREAKING NEWS.


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<table border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><tr><td colSpan=2>I STILL BELIEVE THIS IS THE LIVELEAK REAL VIDEO,
READ THIS AND COMPARE.
CREDIT TO CC FROM MJHD

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/general-discussion/proof-that-rtl-didnt-make-the-coroners-van-video

THE LIVELEAK IS REAL everyone.
the coroner removed the sticker underneith the license plate, and when you look at the van entering the parking lot there is no sticker,

the RTL video is a re enactment not the real deal.

they did almost the same thing but not quite.
if the video is not real then why in the world the coroner removed the sticker that is supposed to stay in place underneith the license plate?

can you explain why ?


here is the photo that was taken from the heli body unload
you can see the sticker is there on the picture and not on the still pic from the video GO CHECK THE PIC HERE


http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/hoax-death/maybe-nothing-but-please-look

now here is another real deal coroner van , different license plate but the real deal.

you can see the sticker that is supposed to be there located undernieth the license plate.

RTL Fake Vid VS Real Vid Redlinecoroner

also now compare the fox news youtube at 6:18 you can clearly see the coroner worker remove the sticker from the back of the van , the sticker is located underneith the license plate just like the real coroner van above.

the RTL VIDEO IS A RE ENACTMENT OF THE REAL VIDEO TO COVER THE REAL VIDEO UP.

TAKE A LOOK AT THIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N0Ogaskv88&feature=related

MJ AND HIS PEOPLE FREAKED OUT THEY MADE SOME CALLS.
TO THE GERMAN MEDIA CAUSE THEY HAVE MORE CONNECTION IN GERMANY , THE AMERICAN MEDIA WOULD USE THIS REAL VIDEO TO BOOST THEIR RATINGS, AND FAME.

IT'S CALLED THE AMERICAN SCOOP MEDIA BREAKING NEWS.


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Post by DONNALOVESMJ on Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:37 pm

sorry double post.
apologies
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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:45 pm

OMG.

Stop IT. dammit.

I dont wanna hear anymore about this stupid video.

It breaks my heart. Even if it was real, it still breaks my heart to see how you are fighting over this.
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Post by emanviam on Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:55 pm

We are not fighting, my dear...at all!!

Feel good, I like and love you all...you will rarely see me fighting. Ever.

Much love for you!!!!!
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