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Post by DONNALOVESMJ on Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:09 am

I saw on youtube a video where the coroner worker removes the sticker located undernieith the license plate.

the license plate of the van photo'd when they where unloading the body from the heli and the license plate of the van that enters the parking lot, is the same, the van that enters the parking lot has no sticker cause it was previously removed, which proves to me that the LIVELEAK VIDEO is real.

the license plate is real both match.

the tape wasn't supposed to be leaked, this is why RTL was paid to make a rebuttal, Joe Jackson and michael Jackson have heavy connection in the media in Germany.

MJ might have asked to do a mock of the leaked video.

cause the van was a decoy used to make believe that MJ is dead.
that was truly MJ jumping out of the coroner's van.

I believe that MJ is A part of the witness protection program ( FBI )
cause why in the world the coroner worker would remove the sticker ?

i have seen the coroner's fleet of cars and they have this sticker and it is supposed to stay there.
not to be removed,

the van is real the license plate is real but they used it as a decoy.
and mj is alive, cause when you die they do not wrap you in white cloth they put you in a body bag.

the officila report of the paramedic said that the body had lividity, when u r dead and showing lividity, they call the coroner directly they do not give you cpr.

Doc Murray disappeared for a while, and was nowhere to be find, watch the video of liveleak again you can clearly see that tall black man with a small fro is doc Murray helping MJ jumping out of the coroner's van.


That video is real but wasn't supposed to be leaked at all.
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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:15 am

OMG!!! affraid

Are you serious??

Why would they remove that sticker.. That seems odd to me aswell
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Post by DONNALOVESMJ on Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:20 am

WATCH AGAIN AT 6:18 he removes the sticker and folds it and gives it to the other police guy.
to throw away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp95YX7OEPo

the police is in on it guys the coroner guy removed the sticker and gave it to the police to throw away.

and look at the body wraped in the white sheet.

when you are dead they remove your shoes, it looks alike to me that the body still has his shoes on cause the feet look square.

they had the dark blue body bag but the coroner worker gave the bag back to the police officer to put it ( the bag ) back into the car.

the police is all over in this video they know what's going on This is why they don't wanna talk to Roberto Alvarez nor Michael AMIR.

and i think that we will be hearing about a criminal investigation but i don't think it will be about murray, but they are trying to bring down the new kind of drug dealers, the docs aka the yes man to the celebrities.

and they are using MJ to do that.
mj is in protective custody ( WPP )
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Post by STARbaybeeRoqk on Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:00 am

i also think this donna....
it wasnt supposed to be leaked out there they had to get rid of it...so they contacted RTL

you can clearly hear the guy recording the video to start to hypervenulate after he sees 'michael' hop out the van
he seems shocked...and scared and surprised
and you can also see a man running into the garage after the coroner van pulls into that place...so RTL supposedly made that video too??
that is the only reason i tend to believe that video at times because the guy that was recorded during the news ...he ran in the garage after the van
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Post by DONNALOVESMJ on Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:41 am

STARbaybeeRoqk wrote:i also think this donna....
it wasnt supposed to be leaked out there they had to get rid of it...so they contacted RTL

you can clearly hear the guy recording the video to start to hypervenulate after he sees 'michael' hop out the van
he seems shocked...and scared and surprised
and you can also see a man running into the garage after the coroner van pulls into that place...so RTL supposedly made that video too??
that is the only reason i tend to believe that video at times because the guy that was recorded during the news ...he ran in the garage after the van

i agree totally.
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Post by Silence on Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:44 am

sorry, but this is really too silly. I know the responsible guys and girls in the editorial department of rtl and who's idea the vid was...

there is no conspiracy at all and the vid is definitely fake
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Post by DONNALOVESMJ on Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:48 am

Silence wrote:sorry, but this is really too silly. I know the responsible guys and girls in the editorial department of rtl and who's idea the vid was...

there is no conspiracy at all and the vid is definitely fake

can you prove the video is fake ?

how do you explain the reason why the license plate match ?
both van which is indeed the same van ? was photo'd loading the body in from the heli.
how do you explain, the coroner removing the sticker that is supposed to stay on the coroner's van ?

how do you explain a dead body wrapped into, white cloth instead of a body bag
dj am died yesterday night and was immediately taken out in a body bag.

where is the proof
please ?
proof since you know RTL people that well.

and they are so responsible, people, so explain to me why the hell they did this.

to hurt MJ's fans.

why why why why explain you have now the burden of proof to give us the reason why since you know them then they might have told you
now you tell us.
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:24 am

I think the fake vid is a Distraction .... give us a headsup in a way.
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Post by ilprincipe on Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:29 am

good idea, earthAngel...

It's distraction..and the intension is also to stop rumors of MJ being alive..
the best thing to get this: you call all the conspiracy theorists and esp.
the MJ believers wacko and some kind of small-minded, because
they BELIEVE almost everything they see....

and now the Wake up call from RTL....

conclusion: MJ is dead...and the one who spread rumors "MJ is alive" are stupid nerds....

Nice try..but failed Smile
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Post by silvy on Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:32 am

I knew that there was something with the licenseplate.I posted it already.
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Post by ballongiraf on Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:07 am

DONNALOVESMJ wrote:
I believe that MJ is A part of the witness protection program ( FBI )
cause why in the world the coroner worker would remove the sticker ?

that has been my belief from the beginning, and the day the "cause of death" was released, i became certain that he is, because:
Even before MJ arrived at the hospital it was announced by TMZ that the cardiac arrest was caused by drugs. Since june 25th, we've had a zillion "MJ is a drug addict" stories. The media has reported numerous of drugs found in MJ's house (latest scoop is heroin lol! ).
Now, less than 1 hour after the LA coroner's office released COD, it was announced that the attorney general is gonna take over the case and that he'll concentrate on interviewing 35 doctors and work with the DEA on the jackson case. I think the LAPD an LA coroner's role in this matter is done now. And think about it; what has the LAPD done? They're raided a pharmacy and raided Murrays house and Klein's office looking for MJ's medical journal. Not once have the LAPD researched Murray, nor have they arrested him - since june 25, they've said Murray is not a suspect at all. How can the last person, who've seen MJ alive and who has admitted to giving him the drug, that supposedly killed him NOT be a suspect? Why on earth would the attorney general take over a homicide case with an obvious killer? Think about it....

I believe we'll soon hear about more pharmacy raids, doctor interviews, DEA findings, etc.... but nothing about Murray (although i do believe he'll go missing soon, as his role in this matter is done now too). lol!

that's my theory, and im sticking to it! LOL
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Post by silvy on Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:12 am

I have the feeling too that Murray will dissapear in some way.
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Post by emo_pinkt on Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:08 am

I dont think the video is real either.
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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:23 am

Silence wrote:sorry, but this is really too silly. I know the responsible guys and girls in the editorial department of rtl and who's idea the vid was...

there is no conspiracy at all and the vid is definitely fake


Ofcause you do. Why dont you give me theair names?, and Ill call them and talk to them..

I know President Obama, But I didnt need to tell you that, to make you feel worse
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Post by DONNALOVESMJ on Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:32 pm

MyBelovedMJ wrote:
Silence wrote:sorry, but this is really too silly. I know the responsible guys and girls in the editorial department of rtl and who's idea the vid was...

there is no conspiracy at all and the vid is definitely fake


Ofcause you do. Why dont you give me theair names?, and Ill call them and talk to them..

I know President Obama, But I didnt need to tell you that, to make you feel worse




@ my beloved mj


I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ! and
i have president OBAMA black berry's #

lol! ha ha ! Very Happy Very Happy

if i understand silence you knew this was gonna happen and you let it happen ?


WOW !!!!!!!!!

YOU ARE A DISPICABLE, DISGUSTING AND MEAN SPIRITED INDIVIDUAL FOR LETTING THEM DO THIS AND CALLING THEM RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE.



BTW that freaken video is real MJ IS NOT DEAD ,
HE IS ALIVE.
i saw with my very own eyes this coroner worker remove the sticker.

mj is in WPP
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Post by emanviam on Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:43 pm

The liveleak video is NOT real...there is a video on YouTube showing how the liveleak video was made....

They are just MORONS that like to play with our hearts....

However, I do agree with the fact that one of the officers removed a sticker out of the van that transporteed the "body" from the helicopter to the coroner's office.
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Post by DONNALOVESMJ on Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:48 pm

emanviam wrote:The liveleak video is NOT real...there is a video on YouTube showing how the liveleak video was made....

They are just MORONS that like to play with our hearts....

However, I do agree with the fact that one of the officers removed a sticker out of the van that transporteed the "body" from the helicopter to the coroner's office.

WELL THE RTL VIDEO IS A RE ENACTMENT OF THE REAL VIDEO.

READ THIS AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND
BTW on the real video you can see clearly that the doctor is wearing a suit the other doc is shorter and is wearing a shirt.

RTL is a re enactment of the real video the real deal wasn't supposed to be leaked.


and yes this is DOC MURRAY I AM TOTALLY CONVINCE , WHEN HE DISAPPEARED IT WAS TO HELP MJ.

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/hoax-death/rtl-fake-vid-vs-real-vid/#p83042
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Post by emanviam on Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:07 pm

DONNALOVESMJ wrote:
emanviam wrote:The liveleak video is NOT real...there is a video on YouTube showing how the liveleak video was made....

They are just MORONS that like to play with our hearts....

However, I do agree with the fact that one of the officers removed a sticker out of the van that transporteed the "body" from the helicopter to the coroner's office.

WELL THE RTL VIDEO IS A RE ENACTMENT OF THE REAL VIDEO.

READ THIS AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND
BTW on the real video you can see clearly that the doctor is wearing a suit the other doc is shorter and is wearing a shirt.

RTL is a re enactment of the real video the real deal wasn't supposed to be leaked.


and yes this is DOC MURRAY I AM TOTALLY CONVINCE , WHEN HE DISAPPEARED IT WAS TO HELP MJ.

[url=http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/hoax-death/rtl-fake-vid-vs-real-vid/#p83042
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/hoax-death/rtl-fake-vid-vs-real-vid/#p83042[/quote[/url]]

Wow, Donna...can you send me both links for both videos to compare, please????
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Post by DONNALOVESMJ on Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:11 pm

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Post by emanviam on Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:12 pm

Oh, but that takes me to MJHD forum....with some pictures but not the actual links for the videos....
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Post by emanviam on Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:40 pm

OK, I found the video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k

My husband knows german...they are basically saying that they did the video...and they show here how they did it, the previous "reharsal" of the video and the actual video...

So the man pointing with the right hand is the same man....he is just rehearsing...(a video of the rehearsal before the actually shoot the final video) and the man pointing to the left is the actual original video shown everywhere.

So, it proves that the video is fake.

As fake as a 3 dollar bill.

Believe me...I so want my angel to be alive...and HE IS...buuuuut...I am not going to create false ideas on my mind because that's not the way I want to clear this mess.

He is alive! And this assh*les did play with our hearts doing this horrible video...
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Post by DONNALOVESMJ on Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:00 pm

This black man is shorter in the rtl video than the real video.

the liveleak video is real rtl did a re enactment
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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:07 pm

I cant do this anymore.. Im so sick and tired, of twisted minded people, who thinks its fun to play with other peoples emotions. Cause I dont. I find it rude, and SICK Mad

These people have to be glad that I dont know who they are yet, but I will find out. Make no mistakes, no matter how broken and torn I am inside, Im strong enough to kick some ass.


My pain of loosing Michael can not be put into words. But I can tell you this, He took a part of me with him, I completely died inside, and thats why I have been so sick, for the last two months.
My body is trying to coap, but it cant as long as all that BS is out there. WTH is wrong with some people.??

My heart is broken into 1000 of pieces, im crying and praying all day long.
I just want Michael back, but not like this.
I want the real thing, not some stupid video, wich first is fake, then real, then fake, and then real again. Thats just stupid.


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Post by emanviam on Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:09 pm

MyBelovedMJ wrote:I cant do this anymore.. Im so sick and tired, of twisted minded people, who thinks its fun to play with other peoples emotions. Cause I dont. These people have to be glad that I dont know who they are yet. But I will find out. Make no mistakes, no matter how broken and torn I am inside because of loosing Michael, im still strong enough to kick ass.

I find it rude, and SICK Mad

My pain of loosing Michael can not be put into words. But I can tell you this, He took a part of me with him, I completely died inside, and thats why I have been so sick, for the last two months.
My body is trying to coap, but it cant as long as all that BS is out there. WTH is wrong with some people.??

My heart is broken into 1000 of pieces, im crying and praying all day long.
I just want Michael back, but not like this.
I want the real thing, not some stupid video, wich first is fake, the real, then fake, and then real again. Thats just stupid.

I absolutely agree with you, and that is why I am not paying attention to this stupid video anymore.
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Post by DONNALOVESMJ on Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:14 pm

I STILL BELIEVE THIS IS THE LIVELEAK REAL VIDEO,
READ THIS AND COMPARE.
CREDIT TO CC FROM MJHD

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/general-discussion/proof-that-rtl-didnt-make-the-coroners-van-video

THE LIVELEAK IS REAL everyone.
the coroner removed the sticker underneith the license plate, and when you look at the van entering the parking lot there is no sticker,

the RTL video is a re enactment not the real deal.

they did almost the same thing but not quite.
if the video is not real then why in the world the coroner removed the sticker that is supposed to stay in place underneith the license plate?

can you explain why ?


here is the photo that was taken from the heli body unload
you can see the sticker is there on the picture and not on the still pic from the video GO CHECK THE PIC HERE


http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/hoax-death/maybe-nothing-but-please-look

now here is another real deal coroner van , different license plate but the real deal.

you can see the sticker that is supposed to be there located undernieth the license plate.

THIS  STICKER IN MY MIND ! Redlinecoroner

also now compare the fox news youtube at 6:18 you can clearly see the coroner worker remove the sticker from the back of the van , the sticker is located underneith the license plate just like the real coroner van above.

the RTL VIDEO IS A RE ENACTMENT OF THE REAL VIDEO TO COVER THE REAL VIDEO UP.

TAKE A LOOK AT THIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N0Ogaskv88&feature=related

MJ AND HIS PEOPLE FREAKED OUT THEY MADE SOME CALLS.
TO THE GERMAN MEDIA CAUSE THEY HAVE MORE CONNECTION IN GERMANY , THE AMERICAN MEDIA WOULD USE THIS REAL VIDEO TO BOOST THEIR RATINGS, AND FAME.

IT'S CALLED THE AMERICAN SCOOP MEDIA BREAKING NEWS.


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Post by emanviam on Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:24 pm

Yes...if you see the link that I posted...it shows you the two videos, SHOWING that they rehearsed it before shooting the actual video. Please, my dear...the video is Fake, fake!!!

I am not posting anymore on this. It is painful...VERY painful to see how people like those that made this video can take the time to make us SUFFER.

Donna, much love for you Smile
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