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Post by SeeingClues on Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:57 pm

Right after he says that t"his is really it...because of....."

then laughs... and
he steps back and holds his heart...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_256XQiS1X8&feature=related
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:03 pm

yep Cool I see what you mean Wink
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Post by emo_pinkt on Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:05 pm

haha... Very Happy What a Face afro
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Post by yaya on Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:05 pm

good observation! also, right after he puts his hands on his chest and then opens his arms wide, it looks like he says "death" if you try to read his lips. my husband pointed that one out, lol.
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Post by SeeingClues on Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:11 pm

and then he makes a motion to his mouth like "I said something that I shouldn't have that gives it away...did you get the hint"...
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:20 pm

Wow ... Michael .... Hahahaha...... Very Happy
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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:20 pm

He did put his hands to his heart.

Ohhh Michael, what did you mean? Sad
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Post by annieisnotokey on Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:46 pm

SeeingClues wrote:Right after he says that t"his is really it...because of....."

then laughs... and
he steps back and holds his heart...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_256XQiS1X8&feature=related

You know when he says "this is really it... because...", it feels like he wants to say something but holds back in the last second.

The question is... what was on his mind at that moment? Suspect
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Post by Banessa on Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:50 pm

yaya wrote:good observation! also, right after he puts his hands on his chest and then opens his arms wide, it looks like he says "death" if you try to read his lips. my husband pointed that one out, lol.



Wow your husband is good Smile Just saw the video and I can't believe how you can actually see him saying the word "death" or at least it does seem that is what he said. The whole mannerism and behavior was creepy there is definitely a lot more than meets the eye in the video. scratch
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Post by SeeingClues on Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:50 pm

maybe he had a staged line there but couldn't say it with a straight face...
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:56 pm

yaya wrote:good observation! also, right after he puts his hands on his chest and then opens his arms wide, it looks like he says "death" if you try to read his lips. my husband pointed that one out, lol.

Well, I saw "Thanks" , but can be "death" too.

My 1st thought was "Thanks" so I will go with "thanks" , no offense please Smile
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Post by terror2k9 on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:04 pm

Human_nature wrote:
yaya wrote:good observation! also, right after he puts his hands on his chest and then opens his arms wide, it looks like he says "death" if you try to read his lips. my husband pointed that one out, lol.

Well, I saw "Thanks" , but can be "death" too.

My 1st thought was "Thanks" so I will go with "thanks" , no offense please Smile
HE crossed his chest like someone is dead in a coffin.
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:08 pm

terror2k9 wrote:
Human_nature wrote:
yaya wrote:good observation! also, right after he puts his hands on his chest and then opens his arms wide, it looks like he says "death" if you try to read his lips. my husband pointed that one out, lol.

Well, I saw "Thanks" , but can be "death" too.

My 1st thought was "Thanks" so I will go with "thanks" , no offense please Smile
HE crossed his chest like someone is dead in a coffin.

yes, you're right on that one.
But telling "death" may be too obvious no ?
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Post by terror2k9 on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:17 pm

noone noticed!So I say it worked like a charm. like 90%of the world, I'd bet has bought into it. most people are oblivious to question anything!
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Post by SeeingClues on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:23 pm

HOLY SMOKES...
At 2:03 he signals 2-5 with his hands... at 2:20 he makes the 6.

maybe I'm digging deep.. whaddya think!! There's something about those hand signals!
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:24 pm

terror2k9 wrote:noone noticed!So I say it worked like a charm. like 90%of the world, I'd bet has bought into it. most people are oblivious to question anything!

ok, you're right. I admit none noticed...almost. I think more clues must be there, need to find them. And everywhere too...
Thank you for opening my eyes Smile
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:30 pm

SeeingClues wrote:HOLY SMOKES...
At 2:03 he signals 2-5 with his hands... at 2:20 he makes the 6.

maybe I'm digging deep.. whaddya think!! There's something about those hand signals!

WOW ok Shocked now, I will watch again and again and again this video Shocked I don't know when i will be able to sleep, but I don't care cyclops
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Post by bec on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:32 pm

Neato! Thanks for posting, I'll go watch it again.
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Post by SeeingClues on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:34 pm

and he's in London, so European date format would have the number date before the month date..(he was a perfectionist you know!)
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Post by MJSmile4Us on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:44 pm

It may be far-fetched but say Micahel staged his death to get away from those who were out to get him like some reports claimed of him being scared for his life shortly b4 he 'died'. if this is the case, and if Michael was planning to use his 'drug overdose' as his cause of 'death' to make his enemies stop looking 4 him as it would hav been clear on their minds that Micahel did really 'die'. imo wouldn't his staggering and weird mannerism and his whole posture (as if he was not stable) were planned to intentionally plant these images and the so-called autopsy reports would have been usd to support this. there are so many reports now already that he died of drug overdose. right?
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Post by mjthelegendlives on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:47 pm

yaya wrote:good observation! also, right after he puts his hands on his chest and then opens his arms wide, it looks like he says "death" if you try to read his lips. my husband pointed that one out, lol.

wow, i say that...wonder what he really said...
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Post by mjthelegendlives on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:53 pm

I dont know if its me...Ive watched the video too many times now...lol...seeingclues, thanks for bringing this... he does seem pronouncing the word "dead" and stretching his arms, like its over!... Shocked
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:18 pm

Human_nature wrote:
SeeingClues wrote:HOLY SMOKES...
At 2:03 he signals 2-5 with his hands... at 2:20 he makes the 6.

maybe I'm digging deep.. whaddya think!! There's something about those hand signals!

WOW ok Shocked now, I will watch again and again and again this video Shocked I don't know when i will be able to sleep, but I don't care cyclops

Sorry, I don't see it and I watched the video about 15 times.
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:41 pm

Give.In.To.Me wrote:
Human_nature wrote:
SeeingClues wrote:HOLY SMOKES...
At 2:03 he signals 2-5 with his hands... at 2:20 he makes the 6.

maybe I'm digging deep.. whaddya think!! There's something about those hand signals!

WOW ok Shocked now, I will watch again and again and again this video Shocked I don't know when i will be able to sleep, but I don't care cyclops

Sorry, I don't see it and I watched the video about 15 times.

Sign langage :

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I will try to find a better one...

But here, you can understand better Wink
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Post by CharlieBarley on Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:23 am

Each day I go from believing Michael is alive then I get days I think he is dead. But I too spotted that a few weeks ago, where he says because............then stands back and holds his heart. I pointed it out to my boyfriend when I first found it and he just said I was mad.

However I had not spotted the bit before where it looks like he says 'death' I watched it back a few times the second time I watched it I thought it could be the word 'debt'? But then the third time I watched it, I must admit I think it looks like 'death.'

Well done! To your boyfriend to noticing that. If this is a hoax, then I think that is a signal to the fans that he is ok, I hope!
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Post by Human_nature on Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:25 am

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Post by Heidi on Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:10 am

Very interesting.... I dont know what he is doing with his hands.. at that conference...
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Post by PepaBCN on Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:22 am

SeeingClues wrote:and he's in London, so European date format would have the number date before the month date..(he was a perfectionist you know!)

You're right about european date format but... I thought UK had the same format than USA.

Perhaps anyone from UK can tell us about it?
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:29 am

OKay, I never see him make the "2" or the "6". "6" in sign is thumb to pinky, he's doing thumb to index(which would be 9) according to the chart you provided.

I just want to add this. Look at the peoples camera screens when they show the audience, the view in their screens is not the bright red color directly in front of them.


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Post by dianafan on Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:35 am

PepaBCN wrote:
SeeingClues wrote:and he's in London, so European date format would have the number date before the month date..(he was a perfectionist you know!)

You're right about european date format but... I thought UK had the same format than USA.

Perhaps anyone from UK can tell us about it?


Hi Pepa

Uk format

dd/mm/yyyy

todays date UK

07/08/2009 and the time is 10:33 am and I'm at work, unfortunately I haven't done any work yet
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Post by PepaBCN on Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:57 am

dianafan wrote:
PepaBCN wrote:
SeeingClues wrote:and he's in London, so European date format would have the number date before the month date..(he was a perfectionist you know!)

You're right about european date format but... I thought UK had the same format than USA.

Perhaps anyone from UK can tell us about it?


Hi Pepa

Uk format

dd/mm/yyyy

todays date UK

07/08/2009 and the time is 10:33 am and I'm at work, unfortunately I haven't done any work yet

Oh thanks! So the "inverse" date is just in USA?

And my "condolences" for you being at work... Wink
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Post by SeeingClues on Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:20 am

IF he hoaxed his death, and this press conference shows clues, then the reason would be the comeback theory and not fear for his life. If he was fearing for his life, he wouldn't waste any time and become dead immediately... this was done in March, so if he was running from something dangerous, I don't think he would wait 3 1/2 months later right? So if he did hoax his death and provided clues here, then it would be tied more to the movie/comeback theory I think. He seems to "happy" about giving us the "warning", you know?
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