A few things about 'hat man'

To the right, standing next to tall blonde woman.

Yes its possible to get a wig with phony bald top, tough they need to be custom made, I know this cause I used to do plays and once we needed to request one for a presentation.Tough on this case seems to be natural. So, Hat Man debunked.

The man in fedora hat isnt on that pic .. hes at the left of her .. 

The one on that pic with grey hair is a woman..shes on another pic with her facing camera.

oh right i getcha the man all the way over to right...is that hat man though..i thought he was further left...sitting left of the blonde woman with wavy hair.

Look at where Jermaine is, in front of him is blonde woman and next to her is hat man minus hat. Will be all the way in the right corner, almost gets cut off.

Thats just the back of blonde womans head, which is kinda straight. I'm pretty sure that is hat man next to her. Same jacket and rumpled collar. Same straggly hair.

Well, no one is going to get a wig with a bald spot. It would have to be a costume. If anyone had access to that sort of thing it would be MJ. So I'm not convinced either way. Maybe someone will come up with a better picture of him.

yeh it does look like him .. all the camera angles are so confusing you dont realise where hat man is sat lol

Marlon at the memorial:

"And Michael, you're there (POINTING), you're right there (POINT POINT POINT)"
4:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6sGAVU5XmY




(Credit for this observation goes to my friend IRL, who does not post on either forum but tentatively believes we are on to something).

bec wrote:Marlon at the memorial:

"And Michael, you're there (POINTING), you're right there (POINT POINT POINT)"
4:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6sGAVU5XmY


Hell-Fing-O.

(Credit for this observation goes to my friend IRL, who does not post on either forum but tentatively believes we are on to something).

Wow great find from your friend! Bec I love your posts, you're like our little detective! Keep on digging

they look like they all decided to huddle to hide the fact that they were bursting out laughing..look at Janet..

Janet and Jermaine...look like they really want laugh and they all hide in circle....
LOOK jermaine...freeky how he's just NOT sad..but the opposite

velvetsilvergirl wrote:Well, no one is going to get a wig with a bald spot. It would have to be a costume. If anyone had access to that sort of thing it would be MJ. So I'm not convinced either way. Maybe someone will come up with a better picture of him.

I posted this on the other blog, but this is Eddie Murphy in a very convincing semi-bald wig and theatrical makeup. If Eddie could pull this off for a movie, why can't MJ?

wild theory, but could it be MJ's REAL bald spot from the Pepsi incident? He had third degree burns so it's conceivable that he was never able to grow real hair on that spot and had to cover with weaves or wigs....

Perhaps he took his real hair and made it all gray and/or added fake grey hair to it.

nohype wrote:

velvetsilvergirl wrote:Well, no one is going to get a wig with a bald spot. It would have to be a costume. If anyone had access to that sort of thing it would be MJ. So I'm not convinced either way. Maybe someone will come up with a better picture of him.

I posted this on the other blog, but this is Eddie Murphy in a very convincing semi-bald wig and theatrical makeup. If Eddie could pull this off for a movie, why can't MJ?

yes true He played many characters in this movie 4 I think.

yes its possible. We know that he used a lot of disguises in the past. The Ghost Video for example is amazing. Do u have any other pix of Michael disguised? I only have this old one

Tatum O'Neal & Michael

Okay! I looked up MJ's movie Ghost on google. I am sending the link. For those of you that have doubts about the many diguises of MJ and what he could pass off. Have a look at the Cast and see who MJ portrayed in the movie. I believe the old man in the hat could have been MJ in disguise. Think about the entire tone of the Memorial Service and that should quile all doubts. Keep the Faith!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosts_(1997_film) - Cached - Similar -

Definitely shadow and no glove!

bec wrote:I did a chart of memorial seating front two rows, Hat Man is 6 seats to the right and behind Paris. Adam's Apple Blonde is 4 seats to the right and behind Paris. Why were these people given such amazing seats?

Edited to correct # of seats

lol

Rachel wrote:I agree with you point about the sunglasses and thought it was odd at the time! It's like the glove thing, the whole family were wearing one glove and even though "Hat Man" isn't wearing a sequeened glove he is still wearing one!

Oh this is all so exciting!

And he is wearing it on his right hand -that's where MJ always wore it...note that three brothers wear the sequinned glove on the left hand, the other two on the right hand...

Rachel wrote:

Give.In.To.Me wrote:I, at first thought he was wearing a glove too, but if you really look closely his hand is shadowed, as are his pants and the womens hands sitting next to him.

I could have sworn it was a glove. When I look at it I can see the cuff of the glove but maybe I am mistaken? When Michael makes his come back we will have to ask him to clarify that for us

To me it looks clearly like a black glove...

missdahmer wrote:

SmoothCriminal wrote:

missdahmer wrote:

mir26 wrote:the hands for me are the reason I keep staring at this pic they look so familair,they look a lot like MJ,s

same here! and just the entire hat, glasses, beard, hair, and cane thing. it's just so like WTF? idk if you've ever watched that's so raven, and I know this is gonna be a little irrelivant but sometimes she does disguises in the show haha and she does this one of an old man with a fedora hat, a cane, and a beard and I swear thats what this 'hat man' looks like! It just doesnt look like a normal thing for someone to be wearing to a memorial. you know what I mean?

Lmao i remember that epoisode
they guy looks outta place to me, and i agree they look like michaels hands

haha good! didn't wanna sound weird by being the only person who watches that show, lol. I happen to find her very funny actually. and I'm 21. I don't have to be a kid to watch Disney channel anyway!

but yeah.. he definitely looks kind of 'out there'.

Also if you look at the wrist of this "Mystery" member of the family you can see slight spots close to where you see the glove starts.

I recorded everything on CNN that day and now I think I am going to watch it again with a fresh eye to see what else is out of place.

kdkennedy74 wrote:I recorded everything on CNN that day and now I think I am going to watch it again with a fresh eye to see what else is out of place.

That's a great idea. I wish I would have done that but I was worried I would never be able to watch it again without crying my eyes out

dontmakeitfactual wrote:

Rachel wrote:

Give.In.To.Me wrote:I, at first thought he was wearing a glove too, but if you really look closely his hand is shadowed, as are his pants and the womens hands sitting next to him.

I could have sworn it was a glove. When I look at it I can see the cuff of the glove but maybe I am mistaken? When Michael makes his come back we will have to ask him to clarify that for us

To me it looks clearly like a black glove...

well if this dude is wearing one black glove than the women to his right is wearing two. Her hands are also shadowed, it's a shadow.

Give.In.To.Me wrote:

dontmakeitfactual wrote:

Rachel wrote:

Give.In.To.Me wrote:I, at first thought he was wearing a glove too, but if you really look closely his hand is shadowed, as are his pants and the womens hands sitting next to him.

I could have sworn it was a glove. When I look at it I can see the cuff of the glove but maybe I am mistaken? When Michael makes his come back we will have to ask him to clarify that for us

To me it looks clearly like a black glove...

well if this dude is wearing one black glove than the women to his right is wearing two. Her hands are also shadowed, it's a shadow.

yep, definitely a shadow.

missdahmer wrote:

Give.In.To.Me wrote:

dontmakeitfactual wrote:

Rachel wrote:

Give.In.To.Me wrote:I, at first thought he was wearing a glove too, but if you really look closely his hand is shadowed, as are his pants and the womens hands sitting next to him.

I could have sworn it was a glove. When I look at it I can see the cuff of the glove but maybe I am mistaken? When Michael makes his come back we will have to ask him to clarify that for us

To me it looks clearly like a black glove...

well if this dude is wearing one black glove than the women to his right is wearing two. Her hands are also shadowed, it's a shadow.

yep, definitely a shadow.

Thank you, hopefully we can move on from the black glove issue

Give.In.To.Me wrote:

missdahmer wrote:

Give.In.To.Me wrote:

dontmakeitfactual wrote:

Rachel wrote:

Give.In.To.Me wrote:I, at first thought he was wearing a glove too, but if you really look closely his hand is shadowed, as are his pants and the womens hands sitting next to him.

I could have sworn it was a glove. When I look at it I can see the cuff of the glove but maybe I am mistaken? When Michael makes his come back we will have to ask him to clarify that for us

To me it looks clearly like a black glove...

well if this dude is wearing one black glove than the women to his right is wearing two. Her hands are also shadowed, it's a shadow.

yep, definitely a shadow.

Thank you, hopefully we can move on from the black glove issue

haha I know! I do think there is something fishy about hat man, and it could very well be MJ in disguise if he is still alive, HOWEVER he is not wearing a glove. it is clearly a shadow. haha.

I dont know ...maybe its a handpainting lol

Give.In.To.Me wrote:I, at first thought he was wearing a glove too, but if you really look closely his hand is shadowed, as are his pants and the womens hands sitting next to him.

It's a clear glove not the shadow from the seat. If it were a shadow, it would also cover his leg. The only shadows on the leg are the wrinkles on the pants.

@theinformer- you see one thing and I see another. Let's just agree to disagree.

i agree that it's just a shadow. you can clearly see his thumbnail, plus i've never seen anyone wear a dark clear glove like a latex glove just for fashion purposes. and the woman to the right of him also has a dark shadow in the same area.

theinformer wrote:

Give.In.To.Me wrote:I, at first thought he was wearing a glove too, but if you really look closely his hand is shadowed, as are his pants and the womens hands sitting next to him.

It's a clear glove not the shadow from the seat. If it were a shadow, it would also cover his leg. The only shadows on the leg are the wrinkles on the pants.

I agree with you.

I also respect others opinions

Give.In.To.Me wrote:@theinformer- you see one thing and I see another. Let's just agree to disagree.

I agree w/you Girl! It seems to me as if it is only the shadow and not a glove!

The issue with the glove is kinda like the o2. We could keep debating for years.
But everyone has a different opinion. I think its a shadow because it shows on the woman. On one hand it looks like a short glove and on the other hand the shadow is higher up. I dont think that she would wear one long glove on one hand and a short glove on the other.Also the edges look really "crisp" for it to be a glove.

Anyone have a pic of a see through black glove that they think could be something similar to what the hat man is wearing?

emo_pinkt wrote:The issue with the glove is kinda like the o2. We could keep debating for years.
But everyone has a different opinion. I think its a shadow because it shows on the woman. On one hand it looks like a short glove and on the other hand the shadow is higher up. I dont think that she would wear one long glove on one hand and a short glove on the other.Also the edges look really "crisp" for it to be a glove.

Anyone have a pic of a see through black glove that they think could be something similar to what the hat man is wearing?

I already showed a pic of a similar glove..can't remember which page..I'll try to find another picture.
But you can find some searching nylon gloves.

this is the image I posted before, this one is white, but well..