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Post by MichaelAngel on Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:43 pm

midnightmlk's GH is Gottfried Helnwein

I posted this in the illuminati board and in reply to the original topic. Please everybody spread word!


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Post by annieisnotokey on Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:44 pm

MichaelAngel wrote:midnightmlk's GH is Gottfried Helnwein

I posted this in the illuminati board and in reply to the original topic. Please everybody spread word!

Do you know for sure? How?
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Post by MichaelAngel on Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:47 pm

Somebody has contacted me on twitter. I'm still trying to get information I will keep you updated. Any questions you want me to ask her?
its https://twitter.com/MJLOVEALWAYS if you want to ask yourself.


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Post by annieisnotokey on Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:48 pm

MichaelAngel wrote:Somebody has contacted me on twitter. I'm still trying to get information I will keep you updated. Any questions you want me to ask her?

I'd like to ask:
- How does he/she know for sure that GH is Gottfried Helnwein
and
- Why GH is trying to kill or hurt MJ?

Thank you.
Hope you can come back with more information.
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Post by MichaelAngel on Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:54 pm

Okay Ill ask i posted her twitter too if you want to ask dont want to betray her by having her get tons of messages on myspace im gonna ask her though now you know her twitter..
https://twitter.com/MJLOVEALWAYS
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:56 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfried_Helnwein is this the GH you guys are talking about? The pictures seems creepy to me though. I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_pale
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Post by MichaelAngel on Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:57 pm

I asked her who he was, before I posted up here
she replied:
"I have no clue how to bring him down. He is into mind control, he is
an artist, paints very disturbing pictures. He worked with MJ on the
HIStory album. He lives in LA and Ireland both. I believe Thome thome
(who is associated with Islam) is also in on this...my personal
feelings."
Now I asked her your questions, will tell you if I get a reply.
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Post by MichaelAngel on Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:59 pm

Dear Jesus, yeah that must be him. My God is that creepy. But dont let him scare us!!
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Post by See on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:03 am

History ablum came out in 1995, so around 1992 they met with Michael???
Can we check this out????
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Post by miss j on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:03 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfried_Helnwein

is this the one? i read some of his artworks are on HIStory album..
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:06 am

I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! MJ%20&%20Gottfried%20Helnwein_jpg

I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! 513703( Is this drawn by him?)

GH seems to have creepy potrait. I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_pale


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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:07 am

If it's that artist...
[read on wikipedia]

Head of a Child
A clarity of vision in his subject matter was emerging in Helnwein's art that was to stay consistent throughout his career. His subject matter is the human condition. The metaphor for his art, although it included self-portraits, is dominated by the image of the child, but not the carefree innocent child of popular imagination. Helnwein instead created the profoundly disturbing yet compellingly provocative image of the wounded child. The child scarred physically and the child scarred emotionally from within.
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:15 am

Harry S.Parker III, Director of the Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco explained what makes Helnwein's art significant: "For Helnwein, the child is the symbol of innocence, but also of innocence betrayed. In today's world, the malevolent forces of war, poverty, and sexual exploitation and the numbing, predatory influence of modern media assault the virtue of children.
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Post by MichaelAngel on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:16 am

in that picture he made of MJ there looks like a skull in his pupils when you look at it up close. I dont know why GH would do this, but I can see why/how he won mjs trust, maybe GH went mad, or was... i know i could never draw such suck volint pictures of children being maimed for any reason, he was best man at marilyn mansons wedding.


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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:17 am

MichaelAngel wrote:in that picture he made of MJ there looks like a skull in his pupils when you look at it up close.

Do you mean by the picture I posted? I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_question
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:20 am

I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! MJGottfriedHelnwein_jpg
He's really creepy.


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Post by MichaelAngel on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:21 am

in that picture he made of MJ there looks like a
skull in his pupils when you look at it up close. I dont know why GH
would do this, but I can see why/how he won mjs trust, maybe GH went
mad, or was... i know i could never draw such suck volint pictures of
children being maimed for any reason, he was best man at marilyn
mansons wedding. (i wrote this before)

yes that one try to get bigger pics........the eay nearest us theres something funny in the pupils.... okay getting off the computer, its up to you guys...be careful mj is in trouble.
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:22 am

@lonelynation,
I was just wanted to post that picture, but when I post it, it doesn't appear.
So thanks for posting it. I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_razz
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:22 am

My pleasure.. sort of
He's really .. interesting looking.
And after seeing his artwork, I'm a bit disturbed.
But what would he have over Michael for making him stay?
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:25 am

I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Artwork_images_1131_513703_gottfried-helnwein
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:28 am

I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Blownup
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:29 am

Wow lonelynation your's is much more bigger!
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:30 am

I resized and tried to keep it as smooth as I could without blurring it out.
Work with that now, and I'll try to make it clearer
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Post by amy on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:39 am

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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:41 am

I was thinking about the eyes some more.. and maybe it's not something in them as far as a picture/image goes, but rather the meaning behind the color

They're like a cloudy color compared to the rest of the photo, so I just thought of words that could represent the color...

Confused, dismal, gloomy, heavy, obscure, somber

His 1st charge was in '93 correct? Does anyone know when this portrait was done? Could it have something to do with that?
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:45 am

lonelynation wrote:I was thinking about the eyes some more.. and maybe it's not something in them as far as a picture/image goes, but rather the meaning behind the color

They're like a cloudy color compared to the rest of the photo, so I just thought of words that could represent the color...

Confused, dismal, gloomy, heavy, obscure, somber

His 1st charge was in '93 correct? Does anyone know when this portrait was done? Could it have something to do with that?

http://www.artnet.com/artwork/425984994/1131/gottfried-helnwein-michael-jackson.html here stated 1990 if I did not read something wrong. I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_redface
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Post by Stranger In Chi-town on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:48 am

lonelynation wrote:I was thinking about the eyes some more.. and maybe it's not something in them as far as a picture/image goes, but rather the meaning behind the color

They're like a cloudy color compared to the rest of the photo, so I just thought of words that could represent the color...

Confused, dismal, gloomy, heavy, obscure, somber


Interesting, yet a bit on the weird side. His eyes, in the portrait, remind me of when Japanese anime characters on most shows become dazed. For example, if there is a spell casted on a character, their eyes lose the glint and highlight of the reflection of light, as portrayed in the usual anime.
Well this pic reminds me of that. MJ's eyes hardly have any glints of light; they are opaque, like he's in a trance or something.
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:55 am

I tried my best to try different techniques and see if you guys can figure it out..but it's such a distorted photo that this is all I can give you - I'll keep trying, but for now...


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I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Cross
In that last one, I see an upside down cross, but that's just me
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:01 am

I just found the original photo

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So obviously MJ didn't sit for the guys portrait
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Post by April-R on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:01 am

That picture really is weird.
The eyes are like Michael is dead inside or as if we don't know what really is going on in his mind or as if he is paralyzed?
By the picture of that watercolour-painting showing that girl lying on the floor I was immediately reminded of the history album and Little Susie I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_smile
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:02 am

Me too!!! I thought little Susie as well!
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:05 am

Wow, that is really creepy! pale He looks like a zombie to me, with the white cracked lips and dead looking eyes.

That one painting made me think of Little Susie too! It must have been modeled after it?
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Post by 4evermichael71 on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:09 am

lonelynation wrote:I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Blownup

I'm only this far in the posts so if this has been said I apologize in advance. This is the same picture on the Tribute 2009 (now 2010) page. Credit is given to this GH.
http://www.thetribute2010.com/
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:11 am

Oh man that's so creepy! I'm so disturbed.

In case this helps in some odd way..


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Post by Stranger In Chi-town on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:14 am

Example of anime character in an evil trance (Pictured here is Rini before she transforms from "Small Lady" to "Wicked Lady".

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Post by Jubilee on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:17 am

So basically if GH is the artist manny Michael met so many years ago, then what is he doing with regards to the hoax... is midnightmilk telling the truth? Has GH put Michael in danger, if so why and how...
Wouldn't suprise me, his art is morbid and a reflection of what is going on in his mind, he seems like a very disturbed man xxxx
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:18 am

I'll second that Jubilee
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:21 am

Jubilee wrote:So basically if GH is the artist manny Michael met so many years ago, then what is he doing with regards to the hoax... is midnightmilk telling the truth? Has GH put Michael in danger, if so why and how...
Wouldn't suprise me, his art is morbid and a reflection of what is going on in his mind, he seems like a very disturbed man xxxx

Ditto! He seems to have very creepy and disgusting pictures. I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_mad
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Post by 4evermichael71 on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:23 am

Since it is on the Tribute 2010 page, how does Jermaine fit into this with GH if at all?
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Post by Stranger In Chi-town on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:27 am

Oh wow. He did this one as well: I remember those pics from the HIStory CD liner notes/pics/art booklet:

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Post by Stranger In Chi-town on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:27 am

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Jubilee wrote:So basically if GH is the artist manny Michael met so many years ago, then what is he doing with regards to the hoax... is midnightmilk telling the truth? Has GH put Michael in danger, if so why and how...
Wouldn't suprise me, his art is morbid and a reflection of what is going on in his mind, he seems like a very disturbed man xxxx

Ditto! He seems to have very creepy and disgusting pictures. I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_mad

Yes. I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_eek
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:29 am

Ok well so the little girl is not wearing pants? I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_question
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Post by Stranger In Chi-town on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:30 am

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:Ok well so the little girl is not wearing pants? I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_question

Yes. Looks like a boy, though. I recall this pic, having looked at the HIStory booklet a long time ago. Also I just realized that Mr. Helnwein did these in that booklet. Hm. I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_eek


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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:31 am

Stranger In Chi-town wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:Ok well so the little girl is not wearing pants? I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_question

Yes. Looks like a boy, though. I recall this pic, having looked at the HIStory booklet a long time ago. I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_eek

Hmm, I don't know it's seems to be a girl to me. Do you have the picture?
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Post by April-R on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:32 am

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:Ok well so the little girl is not wearing pants? I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_question
Well, at least she's wearing a pair of thights.. I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_neutral
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Post by Stranger In Chi-town on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:33 am

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Stranger In Chi-town wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:Ok well so the little girl is not wearing pants? I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_question

Yes. Looks like a boy, though. I recall this pic, having looked at the HIStory booklet a long time ago. I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_eek

Hmm, I don't know it's seems to be a girl to me. Do you have the picture?

Yup.
http://polska.helnwein.com/stc/ghpicts/gh702.jpg
*looks again*
Yeah THAT is a girl, you're right. :-/ But I guess at first it was hard to tell because of the lighting. Had to take a closer look.
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Post by Stranger In Chi-town on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:36 am

April-R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:Ok well so the little girl is not wearing pants? I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_question
Well, at least she's wearing a pair of thights.. I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_neutral
I remember thinking how odd the pic struck me the first time I had seen it, long ago, but it seems to fit the lyrics that are written on the left, from the song "Scream".
Still...:-/ I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Suspect
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:36 am

I always wondered who did that painting. I was thinking it was MJ because I didn't see any credits, and I thought holy crap could he be any more talented? Laughing
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:37 am

Stranger In Chi-town wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Stranger In Chi-town wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:Ok well so the little girl is not wearing pants? I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_question

Yes. Looks like a boy, though. I recall this pic, having looked at the HIStory booklet a long time ago. I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Icon_eek

Hmm, I don't know it's seems to be a girl to me. Do you have the picture?

Yup.
http://polska.helnwein.com/stc/ghpicts/gh702.jpg
*looks again*
Yeah THAT is a girl, you're right. :-/ But I guess at first it was hard to tell because of the lighting. Had to take a closer look.

Thankyou. This picture kinda remind me of Childhood, the one drawn by Michael.

I know who GH is IMPORTANT!!!! Michael_jackson_childhood_drawing
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:38 am

Ya definitely a girl.
Do you think this midnightmilk girl is telling the truth?
She goes on and on for so many tweets, then all of a sudden she's giving it away like that?
She talks about the painting the dates..

"I have no clue how to bring him down. He is into mind control, he is
an artist, paints very disturbing pictures. He worked with MJ on the
HIStory album. He lives in LA and Ireland both. I believe Thome thome
(who is associated with Islam) is also in on this...my personal
feelings."

She released so many specifics in just the one.
I don't know, just seems out of place to me.
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