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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:48 pm

Ok, hey guys, this something which has been bugging me for a while now - and those of you who have been in the chatbox will know how frustrating it is.

JCC left us this clue which so far has stumped everyone.
We've had all sorts of suggestions from binary codes to phone numbers (713-2423) and so on and so far not much has come of it.
Phoenix has called the phone number using the Austrian dialing code and got some woman. I have tried the London area codes because JCC said they were a UK-based friend.
I tried 0207/0208 and as a wild card the Leeds area code 0113 and none of those numbers exist within the UK.

So it got me thinking. JCC's speciality is word games, anagrams specifically as well as some obscure word-based descriptions which - after careful observation and research we have managed to crack.

One day JCC posts the single word 'Censorship' - and after that he posts this up:

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This is what has thrown a lot of people, and to date we still don't know what it means. JCC has censored himself, it's just a matter of cracking his code and seeing what we find.

My theory is simple. JCC likes word games - and they are usually simple enough, they don't involve binary codes (which not everyone knows), advanced maths or any crazy rocket science type things.
What if this is a substitution cypher of some sort - the lines stand for letters and the slashes for spaces. The double backslashes could be a separate word or start of a new clue word.

So far I have the following:
Michael \ the\\_ _ _ _\\_ _ _
Michael \did\\_ _ _ _\\_ _ _
Michael \can\\_ _ _ _\\_ _ _
Michael \can\\hear\\you
Michael \the\\dead\\man (DON'T PANIC!! I'M JUST EXPERIMENTING WITH WORDS TO SEE WHAT FITS) I don't believe the last one because JCC gave us further clues after that which have been correct i.e. Austria/Vienna, the tribute concert etc.

and so on. It's still a very raw theory, I only started discussing it with fellow members tonight because the phone number fell through and now I'm posting it for everyone else.

Can anyone think of something which could help make this make sense? I'm still working on the premise that it is a word game.
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Post by phoenix on Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:52 pm

i already told you and i just can repeat- i like this one, it appears most logical to me - thank you for posting
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:56 pm

phoenix wrote:i already told you and i just can repeat- i like this one, it appears most logical to me - thank you for posting
Thanks Phoenix Very Happy It makes sense to me too, now it's just a matter of getting it to work hopefully.
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Post by mjthelegendlives on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:11 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
phoenix wrote:i already told you and i just can repeat- i like this one, it appears most logical to me - thank you for posting
Thanks Phoenix Very Happy It makes sense to me too, now it's just a matter of getting it to work hopefully.

I mentioned that idea once, but oh well...i also mentioned that in computer programming the backslash represents an escape character...
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Post by Rach on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:24 pm

Great post APOM.

Unfortantley this is where you lose me because I'm a bit dumb when it comes to stuff like this! I will leave this to you guys and I will work on other stuff Smile

Keep up the amazing work!!!
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:33 pm

Rachel wrote:Great post APOM.

Unfortantley this is where you lose me because I'm a bit dumb when it comes to stuff like this! I will leave this to you guys and I will work on other stuff Smile

Keep up the amazing work!!!
I have another theory in the works, I'll post it up once I've got something concrete. In the meantime I'll keep cracking at JCC and see what I get

@mjthelegendlives - I haven't read your post, sorry. I have only read the one JCC post on here and just page 1 of that too.
This is something that occurred to me today although it's been bugging me for a while, but my failed phone calls confirmed it. I came across the escape character in my research too.
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Post by aamj07 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:34 pm

This whole JCC thing confuses me...I have read different threads people have posted about him/her...Was this someone who claimed to be a friend of MJ's?? Sorry to ask again as I'm sure this has already been discussed...
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Post by Rach on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:36 pm

@ aamj07

He said he was he a close London based friend of Michael's and that's it. No other information was given.

I'm skeptical about him but I will try to keep an open mind. I don't want people setting themselves up for a fall.
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:37 pm

aamj07 wrote:This whole JCC thing confuses me...I have read different threads people have posted about him/her...Was this someone who claimed to be a friend of MJ's?? Sorry to ask again as I'm sure this has already been discussed...
Here you go aamj07, I saved a copy of JCCs clues -

JCC:-I am a very close London based friend of MJ.-I am not prepared to say too much but a few people on this site are very close to the truth with what they are speculating.-Everything will become clear soon, trust MJ.
-I cannot reveal too much at this present time but I can tell you, MJ is happy now.
-“Please understand the sensitive nature of this issue.”
-“People could go to prison can you see my reason for being so secretive.


JCC:

-“Germany is key”

-“I must go now”

-"I shall not be able to post very often as I will be travelling out of the country"

-“The Sweetest River in Germania”



“keep faith”

-“colour of flowers”



JCC:
-"I'll still be here on “1st August 2009″



JCC:


-“German Banquitting Hall”



JCC:



“oodles of press”

“set destination”



“Things are progressing well and everything is going according to plan"

“Sunshine Boat Games”

“Hello everybody, I have now landed at my set destination.
Things are progressing well and everything is according to plan.
shhh! The worthier, over-fed patient
Trust MJ"




JCC:

“He takes all the credit”



JCC:



"I am being silenced and maybe its for the best.

The heat is on and the circle is closing tighter.

May the sun set on the darkest grass.

Trust MJ"



JCC:

“Censorship”

JCC:
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JCC:



-"hundred cremators"

-"the sun that shines on everyone"

-"princess grace"



JCC:

-"PRUH"
-"mourn small flowers"


"Dominate insociable thieving"



"Alert steel thickhead"
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Post by aamj07 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:45 pm

Thank you, APOM! So, it was said that some of JCC's "clues" have proven to be accurate...Did JCC post his/her clues on this forum, or MJHD??
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Post by Rach on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:47 pm

aamj07 wrote:Thank you, APOM! So, it was said that some of JCC's "clues" have proven to be accurate...Did JCC post his/her clues on this forum, or MJHD??

It was on MJHD but MrsBenjamin who comes on here was working a lot on this when this site first started up and she got an email from some guy who she thought was JCC claiming that she was on the right path and could be trusted. I have no idea what happened to thatl. I also think there have been several people on MJHD chat who have signed up with the screen name JCC to confuse people and mess with their emotions which is really sad Sad
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Post by aamj07 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:51 pm

WOW...that is all very interesting!!! I'm glad to be "clued in" on the JCC thing now, because I was totally lost before! Hmm...now you've got me wondering what happened with MrsBenjamin & her findings, Rachel!
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Post by Rach on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:56 pm

aamj07 wrote:WOW...that is all very interesting!!! I'm glad to be "clued in" on the JCC thing now, because I was totally lost before! Hmm...now you've got me wondering what happened with MrsBenjamin & her findings, Rachel!

Ha sorry! I will ask her the next time she is online and keep you informed Smile
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:00 pm

MrsB started her own forum where she's working on the hoax. She doesn't come on this one much anymore. I think she did it in the hopes that JCC would go there but I don't know what happened after that.
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Post by SmoothCriminal on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:06 pm

Rachel wrote:
aamj07 wrote:WOW...that is all very interesting!!! I'm glad to be "clued in" on the JCC thing now, because I was totally lost before! Hmm...now you've got me wondering what happened with MrsBenjamin & her findings, Rachel!

Ha sorry! I will ask her the next time she is online and keep you informed Smile

I taught she left and wanted her account deleted
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Post by Rach on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:08 pm

SmoothCriminal wrote:

I taught she left and wanted her account deleted

She asked me to delete her posts but she still comes on here from time to time. Not as much though now she has her own forum.
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Post by aamj07 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:11 pm

My goodness...there are SO many MJ death hoax websites now! I can't keep up!! Thanks for filling me in guys!
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Post by SmoothCriminal on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:13 pm

Rachel wrote:
SmoothCriminal wrote:

I taught she left and wanted her account deleted

She asked me to delete her posts but she still comes on here from time to time. Not as much though now she has her own forum.

Okey dokey thanks for explaining Smile she should come back i liked reading her posts
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Post by aamj07 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:16 pm

Does anyone know what MrsB's website is?
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Post by SmoothCriminal on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:18 pm

aamj07 wrote:My goodness...there are SO many MJ death hoax websites now! I can't keep up!! Thanks for filling me in guys!

I noticed that 2 there alot more people questioning his death now
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Post by aamj07 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:21 pm

SmoothCriminal wrote:
aamj07 wrote:My goodness...there are SO many MJ death hoax websites now! I can't keep up!! Thanks for filling me in guys!

I noticed that 2 there alot more people questioning his death now

Yes, in the beginning it seemed like it was just the MJHD site but now there are so many more sites out there...I've even noticed on some youtube videos there are comments where people are saying they don't think he's dead, and also the same on TMZ! People have commented on some of their MJ stories that they think it's all a hoax. Eventually the media is going to HAVE to respond...
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Post by SmoothCriminal on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:29 pm

aamj07 wrote:
SmoothCriminal wrote:
aamj07 wrote:My goodness...there are SO many MJ death hoax websites now! I can't keep up!! Thanks for filling me in guys!

I noticed that 2 there alot more people questioning his death now

Yes, in the beginning it seemed like it was just the MJHD site but now there are so many more sites out there...I've even noticed on some youtube videos there are comments where people are saying they don't think he's dead, and also the same on TMZ! People have commented on some of their MJ stories that they think it's all a hoax. Eventually the media is going to HAVE to respond...

Yah ive been reading the comments on tmz and youtube alot of people think the ambulance picture is a fake and how there is no footage or hardly any pictures of murray seeing as he is the prime suspect they should be following his ass everywhere,
the medias response will be we are all crazy jacko fans who cant accept that his dead blah blah blah
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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:40 pm

WTF happent to the Doc? We havent heard from him in a while.

MURRAY Where are you?
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Post by SmoothCriminal on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:48 pm

MyBelovedMJ wrote:WTF happent to the Doc? We havent heard from him in a while.

MURRAY Where are you?

Lol hes probaly still in hiding somewhere, come out come out wherever you are Razz i Wanna c his face on telly is that so much to ask ??
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Post by SeeingClues on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:55 pm

Have you tried to do this site? The slashes convert to binary numbers which then converts to text. I did it in 15 seconds.
http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp

All you do is plug in the code and it gives you the answer!
This said, "Be Sure To Drink Your Ovaltine".
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Post by SeeingClues on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:57 pm

so you put the lines and slashes code in the right box where it says "binary to decode" and then in the lower special message box you get the zeros and ones. Copy those zeroes and ones into the top right box again and convert, and the english text is in the left box.
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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:58 pm

lol, be sure to drink your ovaltine?
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Post by SeeingClues on Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:02 pm

this ties back to "A Christmas Story"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdA__2tKoIU
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Post by aamj07 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:35 pm

I was just getting read to say that, SeeingClues! Where does A Christmas Story come in?? Hmm...that's just weird.
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:40 pm

We are like the Boy in the Movie !!! - JCC is the announcer and We (the Boy) have to decode Michael's "Death" ... and figure it out what really happen and learn .... Wink .
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:18 pm

Wherever, whatever, have a nice day !


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Post by Human_nature on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:21 pm

Wherever, whatever, have a nice day !


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Post by SeeingClues on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:36 pm

could mean he's coming back for Christmas, exactly 6 months after 6/25.
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Post by annieisnotokey on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:39 pm

Ok, I s*ck at this because I'm more into the hard facts, but I'll give it a try. tongue

The binary code translates into "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine".

I googled Ovaltine, cause I didn't know what it was and the first thing I read about it is:

"Ovaltine is a brand of milk flavoring product made with sugar (except in Switzerland), malt extract, cocoa, and whey. Ovaltine, a registered trademark of Associated British Foods, is made by Wander AG, a subsidiary of Twinings which acquired the brand from Novartis in 2003.
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Ovaltine was developed in Switzerland, where it is known by its original name
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovaltine

Could it be a hint poiting to Switzerland?? JCC already talked about Germany and Austria, didn't he?
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Post by lovelidae on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:51 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:Ok, I s*ck at this because I'm more into the hard facts, but I'll give it a try. tongue

The binary code translates into "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine".

I googled Ovaltine, cause I didn't know what it was and the first thing I read about it is:

"Ovaltine is a brand of milk flavoring product made with sugar (except in Switzerland), malt extract, cocoa, and whey. Ovaltine, a registered trademark of Associated British Foods, is made by Wander AG, a subsidiary of Twinings which acquired the brand from Novartis in 2003.
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Ovaltine was developed in Switzerland, where it is known by its original name
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovaltine

Could it be a hint poiting to Switzerland?? JCC already talked about Germany and Austria, didn't he?

I think I remember reading that Elizabeth Taylor has a Swiss Chalet that Michael vacationed at before. I've seen so many articles, but I do remember reading about Elizabeth Taylor's Swiss Chalet. Maybe that is a clue.
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:01 pm

Wherever, whatever, have a nice day !


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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:49 am

Michael \can\\rest\\now
Austria \_ _ _\\_ _ _ _\\_ _ _
Germany \_ _ _\\_ _ _ _\\_ _ _
Hungary \_ _ _\\_ _ _ _\\_ _ _
Morning \_ _ _\\_ _ _ _\\_ _ _
AEGLive \_ _ _\\_ _ _ _\\_ _ _ - lol this popped up on my radar this morning when I logged into msn messenger and there was an advert for Backstreet Boys concerts run by AEGLive.
AEGLive \did (can)\\kill\\him

I remember Ovaltine, that was a lifetime ago lol.
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Post by phoenix on Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:10 am

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:Michael \can\\rest\\now
Austria \_ _ _\\_ _ _ _\\_ _ _
Germany \_ _ _\\_ _ _ _\\_ _ _
Hungary \_ _ _\\_ _ _ _\\_ _ _
Morning \_ _ _\\_ _ _ _\\_ _ _
AEGLive \_ _ _\\_ _ _ _\\_ _ _ - lol this popped up on my radar this morning when I logged into msn messenger and there was an advert for Backstreet Boys concerts run by AEGLive.
AEGLive \did (can)\\kill\\him

I remember Ovaltine, that was a lifetime ago lol.


hmmm i just thought that JCC wrote germany is the key- maybe its something in german? i mean we all know that there are a lot germans on this forum right? and they speak german in Austria too...
and my second thought is that if the first \ = space than the second one could be a punktuation mark Like : ; , ! whatever

what do you think?
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Post by nlb on Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:07 am

There were also Christmas decorations up at the house still. Don't know if that has anything to do with the hoax, but thought I'd mention it.
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Post by StenniZ on Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:20 am

Hi all,

I see quite a lot of people are still usinge the "ovaltine" sentence as a result for the ||||||| \|||\\||||\\|||-code. This answer was taken from a website that translates text to binary and back. I started a topic about this and later IWCIS (can't remember the name 100%), also used the site I linked to and got the result "Be sure to srink your ovaltine"(or something close to that). I pointed out that this is NOT the answer to the text2binary-translation. It was merely an EXAMPLE provided by that specific website. Not long after the error was confirmed by others, some people still took this sentence as the answer. I've read that others read something concerning "ovaltine" on this or the other forum before, so I'm not sure that ovaltine has no meaning at all, but what I do know for sure is that the ovaltine-sentence from that website has NOTHING to do with the hoax...please people. I'm just making sure we don't waste time on things that clearly have no part in this. Smile
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:52 am

Maybe the code is Morse code? Just a thought/...
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Post by MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs on Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:26 am

I tend to feel that "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine" is supposed to get us thinking about A Christmas Story!
I posted yesterday re what I saw on the Today show, a book that's supposed to come out in December (sometime) that's entitled The Michael Jackson Opus -- AUGMENTED REALITY.

I don't know................... scratch
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Post by zj on Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:54 am

English is not my native language, but I hope you can understand what I mean.
I don't know if someone here has mentioned this before, and I just wrote down something supplied by JCC at chat room in MDJH.It seemed that JCC had said something about "Australian" in MJDH chat room, and I think it maybe that "Australian"=Austria.
And in chat room this Jcc also wrote some words as follows:"Hightail Pidgins Inn","Their sole","Dema Ref".
I don't know if this JCC was real "JCC",but I wanted to give some information to whom are interested in that.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:56 am

When was this zj?

You dont know for sure it was the REAL JCC.....or someone screwin around.
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Post by zj on Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:17 am

Before MJDH closed, in chat room JCC left these words, but many persons in chat room didn't believe him, so no one noticed these words. I thougt this maybe useful ,so I wrote down these words. However, at that time someone may pretend being JCC .
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:32 am

the "hightail pidgeons inn.....how exactly was it spelled?
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:36 am

OH WOW~!!!

"Their Sole" is an anagram for "Theres Oil"

Now I may be reading to much into this but not only has Dick Gregory stated this but Ive heard rumors myself, that there is an oil field..and ALOT of it underneath Neverland!

WTF?
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Post by PinkLizard on Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:37 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:the "hightail pidgeons inn.....how exactly was it spelled?

Do you think this means something The Jacksonologist? Are you getting somehwere?
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Post by zj on Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:38 am

"Hightail Pidgins Inn","Their sole","Dema Ref"
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Post by MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs on Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:49 am

I heard that too!

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:OH WOW~!!!

"Their Sole" is an anagram for "Theres Oil"

Now I may be reading to much into this but not only has Dick Gregory stated this but Ive heard rumors myself, that there is an oil field..and ALOT of it underneath Neverland!

WTF?
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