Re: GUY PLS CHECK THIS OUT....PLS LET IT BE REAL.

by IWSICS Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:37 pm

they just showed how the video COULD be made. i see no dates on the cameras or anything physically prooving it's fake.

so, if we had enough money and the right surroundings we could do that. easy peasy, as i said- they showed how it could be done.. not that they actually did it.

by summer+sc3nt Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:40 pm

IWSICS wrote:they just showed how the video COULD be made. i see no dates on the cameras or anything physically prooving it's fake.

so, if we had enough money and the right surroundings we could do that. easy peasy, as i said- they showed how it could be done.. not that they actually did it.

I like where your mind is going.. Heading that direction myself.

by ziffes Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:08 pm

summer+sc3nt wrote:
ziffes wrote:*LOL* no one will shoot your guys for you opinion.. i totally respect that.. but RTL showed how they made the video... how they prepared the van and everything..

but i wish you guys were right and i was wrong. that would make me very happy

Thank you but... *waaaaail* They have the video showing that! *Lol*.. Phew! It's a good thing there aren't no firing squad here . Could it be because they did not want us to be on the rignt track and someone gets paid off to do that video? Feeling doubtful again..

i dont know.. what interest would RTL have in protecting MJ? the story of the decade would be for RTL to find MJ.

but i dont know...
i pray to God that you are right and im wrong... Sad

by summer+sc3nt Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:20 pm

ziffes wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:
ziffes wrote:*LOL* no one will shoot your guys for you opinion.. i totally respect that.. but RTL showed how they made the video... how they prepared the van and everything..

but i wish you guys were right and i was wrong. that would make me very happy

Thank you but... *waaaaail* They have the video showing that! *Lol*.. Phew! It's a good thing there aren't no firing squad here . Could it be because they did not want us to be on the rignt track and someone gets paid off to do that video? Feeling doubtful again..

i dont know.. what interest would RTL have in protecting MJ? the story of the decade would be for RTL to find MJ.

but i dont know...
i pray to God that you are right and im wrong...

I'm not too sure of this either but.. lets say that a life is at stake here and the amount involved in keeping quiet about it pays off more than what they will get. Who knows what the future holds... maybe RTL will get the scoop of what is to happen in future which we're in the dark about. Just speculating here... or maybe the video was done by another and RTL was fooled to believed that it's a fake video.. Cheer up my friend.. who knows what tomorrow brings. Keep the Faith Surprised

by NikkiKat22 Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:30 pm

summer+sc3nt wrote:
ziffes wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:
ziffes wrote:*LOL* no one will shoot your guys for you opinion.. i totally respect that.. but RTL showed how they made the video... how they prepared the van and everything..

but i wish you guys were right and i was wrong. that would make me very happy

Thank you but... *waaaaail* They have the video showing that! *Lol*.. Phew! It's a good thing there aren't no firing squad here . Could it be because they did not want us to be on the rignt track and someone gets paid off to do that video? Feeling doubtful again..

i dont know.. what interest would RTL have in protecting MJ? the story of the decade would be for RTL to find MJ.

but i dont know...
i pray to God that you are right and im wrong...

I'm not too sure of this either but.. lets say that a life is at stake here and the amount involved in keeping quiet about it pays off more than what they will get. Who knows what the future holds... maybe RTL will get the scoop of what is to happen in future which we're in the dark about. Just speculating here... or maybe the video was done by another and RTL was fooled to believed that it's a fake video.. Cheer up my friend.. who knows what tomorrow brings. Keep the Faith

I agree with you. Tomorrow is another day filled with more clues. Its like a huge puzzle, and this is just another piece. It may not fit right now, but down the road when we get other clues it might connect somehow.

by summer+sc3nt Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:34 pm

charmed6 wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:
ziffes wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:
ziffes wrote:*LOL* no one will shoot your guys for you opinion.. i totally respect that.. but RTL showed how they made the video... how they prepared the van and everything..

but i wish you guys were right and i was wrong. that would make me very happy

Thank you but... *waaaaail* They have the video showing that! *Lol*.. Phew! It's a good thing there aren't no firing squad here . Could it be because they did not want us to be on the rignt track and someone gets paid off to do that video? Feeling doubtful again..

i dont know.. what interest would RTL have in protecting MJ? the story of the decade would be for RTL to find MJ.

but i dont know...
i pray to God that you are right and im wrong...

I'm not too sure of this either but.. lets say that a life is at stake here and the amount involved in keeping quiet about it pays off more than what they will get. Who knows what the future holds... maybe RTL will get the scoop of what is to happen in future which we're in the dark about. Just speculating here... or maybe the video was done by another and RTL was fooled to believed that it's a fake video.. Cheer up my friend.. who knows what tomorrow brings. Keep the Faith

I agree with you. Tomorrow is another day filled with more clues. Its like a huge puzzle, and this is just another piece. It may not fit right now, but down the road when we get other clues it might connect somehow.

Oh thank the good Lord for your words my dear friend. Though I may sound confident I needed to hear that from someone else. Yea, you're so right. It is a huge puzzle we're trying to piece together and we'll all chip in the pieces as the days goes by..

by NikkiKat22 Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:39 pm

summer+sc3nt wrote:
charmed6 wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:
ziffes wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:
ziffes wrote:*LOL* no one will shoot your guys for you opinion.. i totally respect that.. but RTL showed how they made the video... how they prepared the van and everything..

but i wish you guys were right and i was wrong. that would make me very happy

Thank you but... *waaaaail* They have the video showing that! *Lol*.. Phew! It's a good thing there aren't no firing squad here . Could it be because they did not want us to be on the rignt track and someone gets paid off to do that video? Feeling doubtful again..

i dont know.. what interest would RTL have in protecting MJ? the story of the decade would be for RTL to find MJ.

but i dont know...
i pray to God that you are right and im wrong...

I'm not too sure of this either but.. lets say that a life is at stake here and the amount involved in keeping quiet about it pays off more than what they will get. Who knows what the future holds... maybe RTL will get the scoop of what is to happen in future which we're in the dark about. Just speculating here... or maybe the video was done by another and RTL was fooled to believed that it's a fake video.. Cheer up my friend.. who knows what tomorrow brings. Keep the Faith

I agree with you. Tomorrow is another day filled with more clues. Its like a huge puzzle, and this is just another piece. It may not fit right now, but down the road when we get other clues it might connect somehow.

Oh thank the good Lord for your words my dear friend. Though I may sound confident I needed to hear that from someone else. Yea, you're so right. It is a huge puzzle we're trying to piece together and we'll all chip in the pieces as the days goes by..

You are most welcome my dear Smile

, we have to work together at this jigsaw puzzle, because alone I'm horrible at puzzles Laughing

by summer+sc3nt Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:48 pm

charmed6 wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:
charmed6 wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:
ziffes wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:
ziffes wrote:*LOL* no one will shoot your guys for you opinion.. i totally respect that.. but RTL showed how they made the video... how they prepared the van and everything..

but i wish you guys were right and i was wrong. that would make me very happy

Thank you but... *waaaaail* They have the video showing that! *Lol*.. Phew! It's a good thing there aren't no firing squad here . Could it be because they did not want us to be on the rignt track and someone gets paid off to do that video? Feeling doubtful again..

i dont know.. what interest would RTL have in protecting MJ? the story of the decade would be for RTL to find MJ.

but i dont know...
i pray to God that you are right and im wrong...

I'm not too sure of this either but.. lets say that a life is at stake here and the amount involved in keeping quiet about it pays off more than what they will get. Who knows what the future holds... maybe RTL will get the scoop of what is to happen in future which we're in the dark about. Just speculating here... or maybe the video was done by another and RTL was fooled to believed that it's a fake video.. Cheer up my friend.. who knows what tomorrow brings. Keep the Faith

I agree with you. Tomorrow is another day filled with more clues. Its like a huge puzzle, and this is just another piece. It may not fit right now, but down the road when we get other clues it might connect somehow.

Oh thank the good Lord for your words my dear friend. Though I may sound confident I needed to hear that from someone else. Yea, you're so right. It is a huge puzzle we're trying to piece together and we'll all chip in the pieces as the days goes by..

You are most welcome my dear , we have to work together at this jigsaw puzzle, because alone I'm horrible at puzzles

Lol... yea dear one we'll all be trying to complete this puzzle together. Wink

I sucks at puzzle but looove putting the pieces together. Altho this one sure do messed up the brain.. scratch

We'll get there though.

by IWSICS Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:55 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k&feature=email

please check out the lastest comments left by

chaaaaarlottee and the replys from

MUZIKfactory2

ps, yes it's me! haha Smile

by summer+sc3nt Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:43 pm

OK I'm a lil skeptical about this video thing.. and this is one of the comments that I agree on... @ page 7 of Youtube. Thanks for the link my friend.

breakthru2dstny
The bar on the ceiling is facing a different direction in the German
video when the van has stopped to let the person out. Even the windows
of the back of the vans look different. RTL's van back windows are
longer, while the other van has more square back windows. Please look
again. I am not saying that either video is actually showing Michael
Jackson, but I do see clear and distinct differences in the videos.

by summer+sc3nt Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:48 pm

Another comment to read on Youtube.. page 7.

breakthru2dstny (2 days ago)
The German video is FAKE!!! The man outside the van puts up his RIGHT hand, but in the REAL video, the man outside puts up his LEFT hand!!! Compare this video with the real one entitled "Michael Jackson still alive after helicopter transport to coroner"

by summer+sc3nt Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:53 pm

IWSICS wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k&feature=email

please check out the lastest comments left by

chaaaaarlottee and the replys from

MUZIKfactory2

ps, yes it's me! haha

I read loads of comments from MUZIKfactory2 but did not yet come across one from chaaaaaaarlottee.. I'll try again later maybe the person has the comments to show upon approval?

by IWSICS Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:05 am

summer+sc3nt wrote:
IWSICS wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k&feature=email

please check out the lastest comments left by

chaaaaarlottee and the replys from

MUZIKfactory2

ps, yes it's me! haha

I read loads of comments from MUZIKfactory2 but did not yet come across one from chaaaaaaarlottee.. I'll try again later maybe the person has the comments to show upon approval?

The jerk has deleted my comments and his own replys!
I asked if this was a rehearsal.. and he said that there was never a rehearsal released by RTL!
WHY DID HE DELETE MY POSTS?! he never deleted any one elses.. Evil or Very Mad

by Another.Part.Of.Me Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:08 am

IWSICS wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:
IWSICS wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k&feature=email

please check out the lastest comments left by

chaaaaarlottee and the replys from

MUZIKfactory2

ps, yes it's me! haha

I read loads of comments from MUZIKfactory2 but did not yet come across one from chaaaaaaarlottee.. I'll try again later maybe the person has the comments to show upon approval?

The jerk has deleted my comments and his own replys!
I asked if this was a rehearsal.. and he said that there was never a rehearsal released by RTL!
WHY DID HE DELETE MY POSTS?! he never deleted any one elses..

I read them yesterday Charlotte so I can vouch for them being there. The guy asked you about clarifying your question once or twice then insisted there was no RTL rehearsal video, only the one posted. He also said that at 1minute something it was the released video and at 4.45 it was the RTL video from another angle, something like that.
x

by summer+sc3nt Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:12 am

IWSICS wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:
IWSICS wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k&feature=email

please check out the lastest comments left by

chaaaaarlottee and the replys from

MUZIKfactory2

ps, yes it's me! haha

I read loads of comments from MUZIKfactory2 but did not yet come across one from chaaaaaaarlottee.. I'll try again later maybe the person has the comments to show upon approval?

The jerk has deleted my comments and his own replys!
I asked if this was a rehearsal.. and he said that there was never a rehearsal released by RTL!
WHY DID HE DELETE MY POSTS?! he never deleted any one elses..

Well! Now that is something interesting eh! Your replies must have touched something in him. Anyway he's a loser for doing that! It only proof that what you said could be right. Someone should tell him that if he's so afraid to hear anothers opinion he should not have done any postings on Youtube. I bet he's not sure what he's doing either!

by IWSICS Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:20 am

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
IWSICS wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:
IWSICS wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k&feature=email

please check out the lastest comments left by

chaaaaarlottee and the replys from

MUZIKfactory2

ps, yes it's me! haha

I read loads of comments from MUZIKfactory2 but did not yet come across one from chaaaaaaarlottee.. I'll try again later maybe the person has the comments to show upon approval?

The jerk has deleted my comments and his own replys!
I asked if this was a rehearsal.. and he said that there was never a rehearsal released by RTL!
WHY DID HE DELETE MY POSTS?! he never deleted any one elses..
I read them yesterday Charlotte so I can vouch for them being there. The guy asked you about clarifying your question once or twice then insisted there was no RTL rehearsal video, only the one posted. He also said that at 1minute something it was the released video and at 4.45 it was the RTL video from another angle, something like that.
x

Thank you so much Smile

yeah, he did! Im glad i'm not alone in this! flower

love and hugs x

by IWSICS Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:22 am

summer+sc3nt wrote:
IWSICS wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:
IWSICS wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k&feature=email

please check out the lastest comments left by

chaaaaarlottee and the replys from

MUZIKfactory2

ps, yes it's me! haha

I read loads of comments from MUZIKfactory2 but did not yet come across one from chaaaaaaarlottee.. I'll try again later maybe the person has the comments to show upon approval?

The jerk has deleted my comments and his own replys!
I asked if this was a rehearsal.. and he said that there was never a rehearsal released by RTL!
WHY DID HE DELETE MY POSTS?! he never deleted any one elses..

Well! Now that is something interesting eh! Your replies must have touched something in him. Anyway he's a loser for doing that! It only proof that what you said could be right. Someone should tell him that if he's so afraid to hear anothers opinion he should not have done any postings on Youtube. I bet he's not sure what he's doing either!

yes i totally agree with that, it is very interesting! scratch

i dont understand why this person has shown the video? do you guys know if he has anything to do with RTL or is just 'the messenger' so to speak? Smile

i lovelovelove also how that video only had about 55'000 hits whereas the actual vid has about 1 million.. ahh go mike lol!

love and hugs

by IWSICS Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:26 am

ps, here is the reply i got 2nd time around. first off i asked whether this was the final performance of the video or the rehersal that MUZIKFACTORY2 is showing. He replied ''Pardon, plz elaborate'' so i said.. was there ever a rehersal released by RTL of this video or was there only ever one video shot (and this is what hit the internet causing many questions)

[something along those lines, sorry cant remember as it got deleted.. grrr]
Here, hope it works and u might have to zoom in

https://s829.photobucket.com/albums/zz217/IWSICS/?action=view&current=mjhdpost2.jpg

xxx

by summer+sc3nt Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:30 am

IWSICS wrote:ps, here is the reply i got 2nd time around. first off i asked whether this was the final performance of the video or the rehersal that MUZIKFACTORY2 is showing. He replied ''Pardon, plz elaborate'' so i said.. was there ever a rehersal released by RTL of this video or was there only ever one video shot (and this is what hit the internet causing many questions)

[something along those lines, sorry cant remember as it got deleted.. grrr]
Here, hope it works and u might have to zoom in

https://s829.photobucket.com/albums/zz217/IWSICS/?action=view&current=mjhdpost2.jpg

xxx

Thanks for the link dear one... and I've zoomed in on it and I'm saying... a big HMMMMMM...?? scratch

by IWSICS Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:36 am

summer+sc3nt wrote:
IWSICS wrote:ps, here is the reply i got 2nd time around. first off i asked whether this was the final performance of the video or the rehersal that MUZIKFACTORY2 is showing. He replied ''Pardon, plz elaborate'' so i said.. was there ever a rehersal released by RTL of this video or was there only ever one video shot (and this is what hit the internet causing many questions)

[something along those lines, sorry cant remember as it got deleted.. grrr]
Here, hope it works and u might have to zoom in

https://s829.photobucket.com/albums/zz217/IWSICS/?action=view&current=mjhdpost2.jpg

xxx

Thanks for the link dear one... and I've zoomed in on it and I'm saying... a big HMMMMMM...??

no probelm hun Very Happy

and you and me both! i dont know what this guy has to hide.. do you know if he is anything to do with RTL? I love you

by NikkiKat22 Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:38 am

IWSICS wrote:ps, here is the reply i got 2nd time around. first off i asked whether this was the final performance of the video or the rehersal that MUZIKFACTORY2 is showing. He replied ''Pardon, plz elaborate'' so i said.. was there ever a rehersal released by RTL of this video or was there only ever one video shot (and this is what hit the internet causing many questions)

[something along those lines, sorry cant remember as it got deleted.. grrr]
Here, hope it works and u might have to zoom in

https://s829.photobucket.com/albums/zz217/IWSICS/?action=view&current=mjhdpost2.jpg

xxx

Maybe asking about the fans cheering scared him and thats why he deleted your comments? He didn't want others to see them and start asking more questions that he didn't have any answers for.

by IWSICS Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:43 am

charmed6 wrote:
IWSICS wrote:ps, here is the reply i got 2nd time around. first off i asked whether this was the final performance of the video or the rehersal that MUZIKFACTORY2 is showing. He replied ''Pardon, plz elaborate'' so i said.. was there ever a rehersal released by RTL of this video or was there only ever one video shot (and this is what hit the internet causing many questions)

[something along those lines, sorry cant remember as it got deleted.. grrr]
Here, hope it works and u might have to zoom in

https://s829.photobucket.com/albums/zz217/IWSICS/?action=view&current=mjhdpost2.jpg

xxx

Maybe asking about the fans cheering scared him and thats why he deleted your comments? He didn't want others to see them and start asking more questions that he didn't have any answers for.

hey charmed:)
ah but thats the thing, i didnt even approach the subject of the cheering- that was all him! i only asked if there was ever a rehearsal recorded and he said no Smile

hope i helped flower

by kdkennedy74 Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:43 am

summer+sc3nt wrote:Another comment to read on Youtube.. page 7.

breakthru2dstny (2 days ago)
The German video is FAKE!!! The man outside the van puts up his RIGHT hand, but in the REAL video, the man outside puts up his LEFT hand!!! Compare this video with the real one entitled "Michael Jackson still alive after helicopter transport to coroner"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k&feature=email

OMG you are absolutely right. Great find!!!! At 1:39 it is the left hand but at 4:46 it is the right but yet they did not do a rehearsal....hmmmm...I smell another lie!

by summer+sc3nt Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:48 am

kdkennedy74 wrote:
summer+sc3nt wrote:Another comment to read on Youtube.. page 7.

breakthru2dstny (2 days ago)
The German video is FAKE!!! The man outside the van puts up his RIGHT hand, but in the REAL video, the man outside puts up his LEFT hand!!! Compare this video with the real one entitled "Michael Jackson still alive after helicopter transport to coroner"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k&feature=email

OMG you are absolutely right. Great find!!!! At 1:39 it is the left hand but at 4:46 it is the right but yet they did not do a rehearsal....hmmmm...I smell another lie!

Yea they are trying to deter us from the actual video.. If you go to the link "IWSICS" posted earlier you'll see many commented about the difference in both videos..

by NikkiKat22 Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:50 am

IWSICS wrote:
charmed6 wrote:
IWSICS wrote:ps, here is the reply i got 2nd time around. first off i asked whether this was the final performance of the video or the rehersal that MUZIKFACTORY2 is showing. He replied ''Pardon, plz elaborate'' so i said.. was there ever a rehersal released by RTL of this video or was there only ever one video shot (and this is what hit the internet causing many questions)

[something along those lines, sorry cant remember as it got deleted.. grrr]
Here, hope it works and u might have to zoom in

https://s829.photobucket.com/albums/zz217/IWSICS/?action=view&current=mjhdpost2.jpg

xxx

Maybe asking about the fans cheering scared him and thats why he deleted your comments? He didn't want others to see them and start asking more questions that he didn't have any answers for.

hey charmed:)
ah but thats the thing, i didnt even approach the subject of the cheering- that was all him! i only asked if there was ever a rehearsal recorded and he said no hope i helped

Oh I see, O.K well now you got me stumped confused

by meleah3 Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:15 pm

No, unfortunately this is not real. This is a hoax. The license plates do not match. This has been debunked. I watched a video of the van MJ was picked up in and the one this video shows and they are not the same, they are not only not the same, but they are missing major symbols on the van as well as on the licence plate itself. I wish I could remember where the link is, but if you google "Michael Jackson death hoax" on youtube, you might be able to find it...

Sorry I can't provide a link. pale

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