Re: GUY PLS CHECK THIS OUT....PLS LET IT BE REAL.

by yaya Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:50 am

you're right, he didn't look that tall. but it could have been cuz of the man who escorted him...he did look very tall, which could have made michael look shorter.

MJJ Love wrote:Another thing is, we really can't see if that is MJ. We do not really get to get a GOOD FULL GLIMPSe of him.
The hair looks liked a wig. Seemed awfully losse moving.
He also didnt look that tall.....

by CantlivewithoutMJ Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:51 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Rachel wrote:
THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:And why would someone be in the back of a CORONERS VAN for the hell of it?

Exactly! It wasn't a coronor or a paramedic. This is just too weird for words.

i know it looks all odd and strange but i dont have too many hopes so they cant be destroyed afterwards ..

No one just happens to be hitching a ride in a coroners van. Sorry. And the way he was rushed out of the van and into the building.
If this is a fake then they have a pretty damn good coroners van look a like!!....You cant just "borrow" an officila van like that one and bring it back when youre done.

"Excuse me Mr Coroner, um...Im trying to make a fake video of MJ so can I could just borrow your van for a quick sec? I'll bring it right back!!""

NOT!!

agreed 10000%%

by just_friend Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:53 am

Grace, thanx for advice! Smile

by phoenix Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:54 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Rachel wrote:
THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:And why would someone be in the back of a CORONERS VAN for the hell of it?

Exactly! It wasn't a coronor or a paramedic. This is just too weird for words.

i know it looks all odd and strange but i dont have too many hopes so they cant be destroyed afterwards ..

No one just happens to be hitching a ride in a coroners van. Sorry. And the way he was rushed out of the van and into the building.
If this is a fake then they have a pretty damn good coroners van look a like!!....You cant just "borrow" an officila van like that one and bring it back when youre done.

"Excuse me Mr Coroner, um...Im trying to make a fake video of MJ so can I could just borrow your van for a quick sec? I'll bring it right back!!""

NOT!!

of course i dont think you can go and borrow a coroners van - i dont think i ever questioned this- i would love to believe its true but i just want to be careful and thats why we are here- to discuss it

by annieisnotokey Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:55 am

People I had a look at the original footage aired by FOX and I don't see any markings or writing underneath the license plates!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvDlZlDUvo

GUY PLS CHECK THIS OUT....PLS LET IT BE REAL. - Page 3 Foxfootage

GUY PLS CHECK THIS OUT....PLS LET IT BE REAL. - Page 3 Foxfootage

by Smelly Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:57 am

WTF is goin on???!!!!!

by ishealive Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:56 am

Lol Jacksonologist very true. It looks too official to be fake. I think MJ got someone to record this. If it was just an ordinary person recording then you'd here them screaming "Michael" or crying. They stayed very quiet while recording.
It looks very real.

by phoenix Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:57 am

annieisnotokey wrote:People I had a look at the original footage aired by FOX and I don't see any markings or writing underneath the license plates!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvDlZlDUvo

thank you annie, this is a picture which convince me that the video could be real for sure

by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:57 am

The R's don't match guys.

The R's don't match on the vans.

by jpresley Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:57 am

MJJ Love wrote:
michellemissesmjj wrote:listen guys. not sure. in the pics of the 2 number plates, there seems to be writing on the door under the number plate on the day time pic but none on the night time pic. can anybody maginify it.

Oh wow, You're right.
Geesh...
So, maybe it is a fake....
I just maginified in my FIREWORKS (PHOTO SOFTWARE EQUIV to PHOTO SHOP) and there are no words under the license plate for the Garage van that the man hops out of.

Well, lets think about this for a second. Michael was transported in broad daylight from UCLA to the coroners office. It was broad daylight when we saw him being loaded in the ambulance. Is there footage of the ambulance unloading Michael at the coroners office afterward? I don't recall seeing seeing it if there is. If someone knows where a link is, could you please post it?

Now, in the video showing who we think is Michael getting out of the ambulance, it's well after dark. Where did the ambulance go between the time Michael was loaded into it and this video from today? I'm not so concerned about the numbers below and above the license pic, because those could have easily been covered up with adhesive/magnetic car decals. The license number itself is more important IMO, and it [appears] to match.

by annieisnotokey Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:58 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
"Excuse me Mr Coroner, um...Im trying to make a fake video of MJ so can I could just borrow your van for a quick sec? I'll bring it right back!!""

NOT!!

by mir26 Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:58 am

ok Annie this is getting scary now lol

by CantlivewithoutMJ Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:58 am

ishealive wrote:Lol Jacksonologist very true. It looks too official to be fake. I think MJ got someone to record this. If it was just an ordinary person recording then you'd here them screaming "Michael" or crying. They stayed very quiet while recording.
It looks very real.

Yes it is real,have to be.I know.

by michellemissesmjj Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:58 am

rachel i dont think you can photoshop a vid. it looked like the same number plate whenthe van was moving. you can catch a glimpse. unless of courrse all the corernors vans number plates go in sequence. but then again why would a man dressed like mj do that for just to pretend for you tube sake?

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:59 am

Well....SOMEONE made this video for a reason.........with a REAL coroners van.

by Rach Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:01 pm

michellemissesmjj wrote:rachel i dont think you can photoshop a vid. it looked like the same number plate whenthe van was moving. you can catch a glimpse. unless of courrse all the corernors vans number plates go in sequence. but then again why would a man dressed like mj do that for just to pretend for you tube sake?

Sorry Hon, I didn't mean the video I mean the stills. I'm not too tech savvy so don't know how all this would work. However, my point was licence plates or not this is still weird and it has been released to us for a reason. It's exactly 2 months after the "death" and IMO it has some signifience to us and the whole hoax idea.

by jpresley Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:03 pm

yaya wrote:you're right, he didn't look that tall. but it could have been cuz of the man who escorted him...he did look very tall, which could have made michael look shorter.

MJJ Love wrote:Another thing is, we really can't see if that is MJ. We do not really get to get a GOOD FULL GLIMPSe of him.
The hair looks liked a wig. Seemed awfully losse moving.
He also didnt look that tall.....

IMO, the person in this video was walking a bit hunched over. Plus, the video is shot some yards away and the guard (or whomever was leading him) could have been 6 ft or taller. Mike was 5'11 and slim, so a beefy person that is 6' would look significantly bigger than Michael if standing right next to him. Further, let's ask another obvious ??, if not Michael WHO would LA county officials be escorting into the coroners office after dark on the day Michael Jackson died?

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:05 pm

Youre right. the "R's dont match...neither do the "N"s......I still think there is significance to this vid.

by mir26 Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:06 pm

ok someone made a different video of this its even a little bit in slowmotion,I really dont know what to think Evil or Very Mad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOCO3qsQMTg

by ilprincipe Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:06 pm

I have no idea what to thnk about it...
I can't see this person clearly to say "YES. This has to be MJ"

I also miss DATE and TIME when this vid was shot....

Jacksonologist may be right..you can't borrow a coroners van just for
shooting a fake vid...
but I think it's LA....Hollywood....USA...Land of opportunity...

So I'm not really excited and convinced.......had too bad experiences during the last weeks
to be happy about this video....just my opinion...
I still believe he's alive....but not because of this vid....

by ishealive Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:06 pm

Exactly jpresley, it looks too official to be a fake. I think this video was for us!
It's exactly 2 months today and incase any of us were considering giving up yesterday this was released to us today!!!!!

by endlessfire Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:08 pm

is there any other footage of the van?

by EarthAngel90 Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:07 pm

HOLY S***T ... is this a fake van ??!!! and was filmed 2 months before his "Death"???? OMG .... OMG .... That is all I can say .... Someone Tell Me WTF??? I am so confused ....

by jpresley Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:09 pm

ishealive wrote:Lol Jacksonologist very true. It looks too official to be fake. I think MJ got someone to record this. If it was just an ordinary person recording then you'd here them screaming "Michael" or crying. They stayed very quiet while recording.
It looks very real.

If you listen though, you can hear whoever is recording breathing very hard!

by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:10 pm

The lisence plates match.

I dont care.. something is fishy in this video.. I know what Michael look like trust me, and how tall he is.

Okey I admit, the one jumping out of the van. ITS ME LOL.. No omg, sorry.

Its michael, or an imposter, thats my opinion..

But why the hell take an imposter to the coroners the day Michael died??
I hear the breating person too.. Mabye he have been running

I dont know anymore.. Im gonna take a shower

by ishealive Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:13 pm

jpresley wrote:
ishealive wrote:Lol Jacksonologist very true. It looks too official to be fake. I think MJ got someone to record this. If it was just an ordinary person recording then you'd here them screaming "Michael" or crying. They stayed very quiet while recording.
It looks very real.

If you listen though, you can hear whoever is recording breathing very hard!

Yeah I noticed that, don't know what that's about but I do know if it was me recording that day I wouldn't be very silent that's why I think MJ payed someone to take this video.

by Rach Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:13 pm

Are we forgetting that this would have been a restricted area so it would have had to have been taken by someone who has the authority to go there. Otherwise all of the media would have been able to get these shots.

by Thetruth Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:14 pm

I now belivie that video to be fake, for one reason.

Dont you find it weird that you can only distinguish the licence plate number at the end. Otherwise it is almost blurred out, and at the end when it is possible to actually see the licenceplate the pitchure changed. It is most likely photoshopped to be similar to the coroners van licenceplate nr MJ ride in.

Sorry guys but I strongly belivie it was fake!

by endlessfire Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:15 pm

i don't think i would have screamed, i would have been having a panic attack which does cause one to be short of breath, lol, if this is real you have to take into account that it was right after his supposed death, i would have been scared they would find me and 'deal' with me so i think i would have been quiet too.

by pumpkin Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:16 pm

So who took the video? Why has it just been released now? Is this the back entrance to the LA Coroner's office - can anyone verify that? If not it may just be someone playing a sick joke with a remastered white van.

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:17 pm

EarthAngel90 wrote:HOLY S***T ... is this a fake van ??!!! and was filmed 2 months before his "Death"???? OMG .... OMG .... That is all I can say .... Someone Tell Me WTF??? I am so confused ....

where did you see it was filmed 2 months before his death?

by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:17 pm

Thetruth wrote:I now belivie that video to be fake, for one reason.

Dont you find it weird that you can only distinguish the licence plate number at the end. Otherwise it is almost blurred out, and at the end when it is possible to actually see the licenceplate the pitchure changed. It is most likely photoshopped to be similar to the coroners van licenceplate nr MJ ride in.

Sorry guys but I strongly belivie it was fake!

I cant say.

But I just spoke to someone who knows alot about photoshop. She told me it dosent look like its photoshopped..

But like I say, I dont have a clue.. Im confused.

The man jumping out of the van is wearing a disguise.
he has to know that either someone he didnt want to filmed him, or its Michael.. thats my opinion

by GirlSaturday Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:18 pm

No conclusion on the video's authenticity for me yet. Either way, who are we to presume planted the video...MJ or a prankster looking for his/her 15 minutes of fame?

Thetruth wrote:I now belivie that video to be fake, for one reason.

Dont you find it weird that you can only distinguish the licence plate number at the end. Otherwise it is almost blurred out, and at the end when it is possible to actually see the licenceplate the pitchure changed. It is most likely photoshopped to be similar to the coroners van licenceplate nr MJ ride in.

Sorry guys but I strongly belivie it was fake!

by endlessfire Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:20 pm

Thetruth wrote:I now belivie that video to be fake, for one reason.

Dont you find it weird that you can only distinguish the licence plate number at the end. Otherwise it is almost blurred out, and at the end when it is possible to actually see the licenceplate the pitchure changed. It is most likely photoshopped to be similar to the coroners van licenceplate nr MJ ride in.

Sorry guys but I strongly belivie it was fake!

every time i try to video something half of it is blurry, especially with a moving object, which could be why the only time it's not blurry is after the van has stopped. i don't think you can photoshop a video

by Ena Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:20 pm

Tough one. I don't know what to think yet. If it is real...jeez!

by annieisnotokey Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:21 pm

Wanna make things even more freaky??

This is the pic that everybody is comparing to the MJ-jumping-off-van footage:

GUY PLS CHECK THIS OUT....PLS LET IT BE REAL. - Page 3 Article11958270580a5d50

GUY PLS CHECK THIS OUT....PLS LET IT BE REAL. - Page 3 Article11958270580a5d50

It was posted originally by the Daily Mail UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1195827/Was-Michael-Jackson-killed-injection-ease-pain-Police-quiz-stars-doctor.html

by annieisnotokey Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:21 pm

Now take a look at the screen shot I took of the FOX live footage:
GUY PLS CHECK THIS OUT....PLS LET IT BE REAL. - Page 3 Foxfoot

Where is the guy I circled in red in the Daily Mail pic??

Keep in mind the angles are different, but we should be able to see that guy in both pics...

by Rach Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:23 pm

It looks like there is someone by the door, just behind what I think is a paramedic but I can't make it out to see who it is.

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:24 pm

Im confused...??

by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:25 pm

U can see the guy with the bald head just behind the door of the coroners van in the first pic

by endlessfire Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:25 pm

annieisnotokey: you can see part of his head between the police officer and the van door

by EarthAngel90 Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:25 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
EarthAngel90 wrote:HOLY S***T ... is this a fake van ??!!! and was filmed 2 months before his "Death"???? OMG .... OMG .... That is all I can say .... Someone Tell Me WTF??? I am so confused ....

where did you see it was filmed 2 months before his death?

One the members mentioned it ..... If I am correct ....

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:27 pm

Rachel wrote:It looks like there is someone by the door, just behind what I think is a paramedic but I can't make it out to see who it is.

I see a head too Rach

by ishealive Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:29 pm

endlessfire wrote:i don't think i would have screamed, i would have been having a panic attack which does cause one to be short of breath, lol, if this is real you have to take into account that it was right after his supposed death, i would have been scared they would find me and 'deal' with me so i think i would have been quiet too.

Lol that's a good point...
Where has this guy been all along though, why hasn't he come forward!!!

by ilprincipe Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:29 pm

hmm...I think I'm stupid *lol*
is this person in the circle that important?
I don't get it....hmmm...
no offense...I'm just clueless

by annieisnotokey Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:29 pm

Rachel wrote:It looks like there is someone by the door, just behind what I think is a paramedic but I can't make it out to see who it is.

I don't think so... That head is behind the military guy and the guy I circled is in front of him all the time in the footage.

by annieisnotokey Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:30 pm

ilprincipe wrote:hmm...I think I'm stupid *lol*
is this person in the circle that important?
I don't get it....hmmm...
no offense...I'm just clueless

Nope, it's not important.
It's just that the "reference" pic doesn't seem to match exactly the footage, IMHO.

by NikkiKat22 Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:31 pm

ishealive wrote:
endlessfire wrote:i don't think i would have screamed, i would have been having a panic attack which does cause one to be short of breath, lol, if this is real you have to take into account that it was right after his supposed death, i would have been scared they would find me and 'deal' with me so i think i would have been quiet too.

Lol that's a good point...
Where has this guy been all along though, why hasn't he come forward!!!

Michael would not hurt anybody! Even if they did figure out the secret, or see him someplace.

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