OFFICIAL TII movie SPOILER thread.

[Rach]

Here you go ladies

[neverlandprincess]

sweet!!!

[Rach]

Can this thread please be used ONLY for spoilers regarding TII?

As GirlSaturday pointed out in another thread, people may not wish to know what the movie contains so it should be placed in here. I have added a spoiler warning to the thread title so people should be aware

It will also make the forum easier to follow if everything regarding TII is in one place because it will be manic over the next few days!

[LizzieBee]

Can this thread please be used ONLY for spoilers regarding TII?

As GirlSaturday pointed out in another thread, people may not wish to know what the movie contains so it should be placed in here. I have added a spoiler warning to the thread title so people should be aware

It will also make the forum easier to follow if everything regarding TII is in one place because it will be manic over the next few days!

Yes. It absolutely will get crazy around here.
I know that my eyes and ears are going to be scanning the film for any clues.
Lol. I will still remember to enjoy the movie too though.

[neverlandprincess]

About third person speak-I watched him get some award on youtube(really don't remember what it was) and he was not at the ceremony he was on a screen-and he said "you have not sen the last of Michael Jackson"-in the Bashir interview, he said "Plastic surgery was'nt made for Michael Jackson.

[LizzieBee]

About third person speak-I watched him get some award on youtube(really don't remember what it was) and he was not at the ceremony he was on a screen-and he said "you have not sen the last of Michael Jackson"-in the Bashir interview, he said "Plastic surgery was'nt made for Michael Jackson.

Oh my gosh! you're right. I forgot all about that.
He has done it before. I am certain I've heard him.
Hmm....

[neverlandprincess]

oop sorry -I posted that on the wrong thread

[miss j]

in the Bashir interview, he said "Plastic surgery was'nt made for Michael Jackson.

i thought i heard he said "Plastic surgery wasn't invented by Michael Jackson."

[LizzieBee]

oop sorry -I posted that on the wrong thread

Lmao....I noticed that. I kind of giggled and then replied. I was like, "Wait...did I click on the right thread??"
Hehe. Thanks for making me smile.

[LizzieBee]

in the Bashir interview, he said "Plastic surgery was'nt made for Michael Jackson.

i thought i heard he said "Plastic surgery wasn't invented by Michael Jackson."

Lol. No. He sure didn't invent it. Hehe. But he did say that it was not made for Michael Jackson. He was saying that EVERYONE in hollywood gets it...not just him.

[neverlandprincess]

in the Bashir interview, he said "Plastic surgery was'nt made for Michael Jackson.

i thought i heard he said "Plastic surgery wasn't invented by Michael Jackson."

Lol. No. He sure didn't invent it. Hehe. But he did say that it was not made for Michael Jackson. He was saying that EVERYONE in hollywood gets it...not just him.

pretty sure he says "was'nt made for" but either way its third person.

[LizzieBee]

in the Bashir interview, he said "Plastic surgery was'nt made for Michael Jackson.

i thought i heard he said "Plastic surgery wasn't invented by Michael Jackson."

Lol. No. He sure didn't invent it. Hehe. But he did say that it was not made for Michael Jackson. He was saying that EVERYONE in hollywood gets it...not just him.

pretty sure he says "was'nt made for" but either way its third person.

Lol. Yuppers. I didn't do a direct quote because I'm not sure what his exact words were. But you're right.

[bibi]

Oh my goodness I can't wait to see the movie!! Bring paper and pens(or "pins" ) to the cinema just to make sure you don't forget an important observation before you get here!!!

[juliet]

Okay, guys, those who are going to watch the TIIMovie thanks in advance. I can't watch because I have my asthma and I can't go into closed/crowded area. So, I'll be glued onto this thread.

Thanks RACH, as always, for this thread.

[LizzieBee]

Okay, guys, those who are going to watch the TIIMovie thanks in advance. I can't watch because I have my asthma and I can't go into closed/crowded area. So, I'll be glued onto this thread.

Thanks RACH, as always, for this thread.

I'm sorry. I will make sure to bring paper and a pen with me. I can't believe I didn't think of that. Great thinking bibi.
Gotta be veeerrrry observant. Ahh!! Can't wait!!!!!

9 pm on October 27, 2009...some new clues will hopefully be discovered!!!

[mjgirl86]

Here! To hype you all up, further!!

[MJFOREVER]

nice video

[neverlandprincess]

wow-that videoo...O my Freaking Lord...TNZ ppl are on something...truly.

[MissBillieJean]

I'm so excited right now. This Is It!!!!!!! after months of wait and speculation is finally here!!!!!

[Stillalive]

Thanks Rach I appreciate this thread
I havent bought a ticket and, btw, I am sick atm.
Keep your eyes and ears open

Patrizia.

[badloving]

i will be all over this site tomorrow...but i'll be at work in the morning ....please don't keep the suspense....i don't think i'll be able to go to the film and i wanna know everything.....i'm counting on you people...

[Rach]

I can't remember who it was, but someone I follow on twitter advised everyone to stay in their seats until AFTER the credits have rolled.

I have no idea what that means but I would hate to miss out on anything so lets all see if anything comes of that!

[mjgirl86]

Wow you guys... getting me all excited...

[neverlandprincess]

That was my idea to-these days there is ALWAYS something after movie credits-so I was gonna sit till then too.

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

Wait in your seats until FTER the credits? Rut-roh!!! I canot STAND the suspense!!
Dang it........I need to just drive to Savannah tonight and go. MY bf can live without me for a few hours............

[neverlandprincess]

@Jacksonoloagist-I think he could LOLLLLL-Savannah? As in GA? I thought you were in one of the Carolinas'? It is not showing closer...hmmm. Thankfully in my little corner of the south it is actualy showing.

[MissBillieJean]

I heard there was supposed to be a clue about the Thriller perfomance too.

[neverlandprincess]

I remember

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

@Jacksonoloagist-I think he could LOLLLLL-Savannah? As in GA? I thought you were in one of the Carolinas'? It is not showing closer...hmmm. Thankfully in my little corner of the south it is actualy showing.

I am in the extreme southeast of South Carolina. About 45 min drive from my house to Savannah. No....the town I live in is a resort beach town and its small. So they arent showing it except in Savannah. It sucks where I live.

[WanaBstartnSthn]

I just got home 30 minutes ago. I don't kno what to think or how to feel. I really think that Ecas was in the movie. "Michael" had his headset on the left side 90% of the movie and a lot of times he was just lip synching. He also forgot the words to a couple songs which got worried at times but even singers who perform everyday still forget their words....sorry if I'm spoiling things for anyone, just wanted to let you know what I observed. Good nite it's 3:15 am here n I gota wake up at 6:40

[NYMoonwalker]

I just saw it. I cried my eyes out. I am so completely drained and I cannot find the words to explain everything I am feeling. I am heartbroken all over again. All I am going to say for now is that I think that was all Michael. I did not spot any doubles. And do stay after the credits, there is an extra clip . Overall, I loved it. Seeing Michael again was bittersweet.

I miss him more than ever now.

I will post more tomorrow when my eyes aren't so red and I'm not so depressed.

[yaya]

well i watched the movie! i actually thought he wasn't lip synching and sounded pretty good. i'm not sure what to think about the doubles issue...i thought it was michael most of the time. as far as clues, either i was too daft, too into the music or there were no clues. the only thing "odd" i thought was that there was no "rip" or anything like that (at least that i saw). and we stayed til the very end.

but i really enjoyed it...i didn't want it to end. but now where do we go from here??? well, i am so tired and sleepy...i can't wait to read your thoughts tomorrow! or actually later on today...goodnight everyone!

[yaya]

agreed! don't think i saw any doubles, but i'm not sure. i hope tomorrow you feel better!

I just saw it. I cried my eyes out. I am so completely drained and I cannot find the words to explain everything I am feeling. I am heartbroken all over again. All I am going to say for now is that I think that was all Michael. I did not spot any doubles. And do stay after the credits, there is an extra clip . Overall, I loved it. Seeing Michael again was bittersweet.

I miss him more than ever now.

I will post more tomorrow when my eyes aren't so red and I'm not so depressed.

[MJJ Love]

I just got home, its 3:47 am here in WASH DC area. The movie was PACKED FULL. I saw kids 8 and 9 in there.
Great crowd.
The movie left me with such a good feeling. Too see the kind of person he is and how he interacts with people is amazing to me. He is so humble and so calm. Even tho he did not agree with certain things, he did not rip anyones head off or be rude when correcting them.
Watching him throughout, I TOTALLY BELIEVE THAT WAS MICHAEL. NO one can sing like Michael like that. He sounded really great.

And to be honest, I thought he looked really good. Really good. He has some serious swagger about him. LOVE IT.

I think Michael was really an ANGEL. I mean really, really an ANGEL. Listen to how he speaks of the earth and life. He's just so different. There is no other like this beautiful spirit.
OUR MESSAGE from MJ is "HEAL THE WORLD". Love Lives Forever.

Things I noticed that were strange....
At the end It said
"MICHAEL JACKSON
LOVE LIVES FOREVER"
=Which equals to me MJ=LOVE MICHAEL LIVES FOREVER
If he had passed, I would have expected to see, REST IN PEACE MICHAEL JACKSON, 1958 - 2009
But that wasn't the case.

I LOVE YOU MICHAEL!!!!!
I loved the film.
The scenes were absolutely fantastic.
I hope there is another movie. Because the scenes were tight!

Somewhat sad....
Because we may never see him again. He's so graceful and amazing.

[Eva R]

oh i can't wait to see it friday!! and next week Wednesday! I am glad you liked it!
people say that the clues are in the text of the music and the dance moves

[Loree]

I'm supposed to write this in here right?



Okay so I just returned home from watching TII ~!
and I would like to share some highlights I saw during the movie
hopefully it will help
it's 3:10 Am where I am and I'm sorry if I misspell some words, I'm
really tired and have to wake up tomorrow hehe well today early
so bare with me.

So the movie starts with some words saying about the movie
and then the dancers are on an "interview" on April 15, (only 9 dancers)
then the MJ red/orange pants appeared, but he is wearing GLASSES
yeah the question it's why? then the MJ black pants (without glasses) appeared in some old video tape
supposed it's from different days yeah right (or it can be)

The 1st song it's "Wanna be starting something" I can't remember which MJ color pants was but the 2nd song it's
"Jam" the 3rd "They don't care about us" the 4th "Human nature" which
in some scenes there is the MJ red pants in others the MJ black pants
and in others the MJ golden pants (I think they were golden, I'm not
sure tho)

Then there is a scene? where they put the three MJ's together to compare them?

MJ red pants-with glasses | MJ black pants-without glasses | MJ golden pants-with glasses


In my own opinion I think the MJ red pants and golden pants is/are fake
and the Black pants it's the real one, I might be wrong I might be right but this is just my opinion
from my point of view. why? well because I think the red's and Golden's
moves were weird like without heart and every time the MJ without
glasses aka black pants show up he looked more lively more umm Michael.
Also we can see his face of course.

OK so the 6th song was the "Smooth Criminal" first appeared the "real
MJ" wearing black and white pants you know for the video of SC
on stage there were 6 dancers
then the "fakes" appeared.

The following song were "The way you make me feel" again the Michael "fake" appeared hand thinner (without glasses)
then he was talking with some guy, they were very close but using a microphone? why? to fake the voice? I don't know maybe.
Next the MJ with no glasses appeared and now without the microphone talking with the same guy(they were far from each other)
[bigger hands]

Next song " The way you make me feel"- black pants MJ (real?)
-------------------------------black out------------------------------------------

The Jackson 5 songs

1st-I want you back
2nd-I forgot which one was it sorry
3rd-I'll be there

the three of them sang by the MJ with no glasses
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Dancers appeared with Michael the same from above
then the song "I just can't stop loving you"- by the MJ with glasses
which his moves where weird.

The Thriller :O

[first I have to said that it was awesome, I didn't expected some things that happened]

hehe here appears the Michael with the cute little lollipop

holograms were used in here (umm holograms, this remains me the Jermaine tribute maybe?)

The big spider was awesome animated looked real btw
so inside of the spider comes out Michael!!! without glasses of course
then Zombies? fall from the sky (hehe weird)

---------------------------------fire works--------------------------

the Aerialist were amazing seriously

in the platform there comes MJ black pants no glasses
then the "Beat it" song sang by MJ (with glasses)
(the dance was slow, no energy)
MJ with no glasses appeared.


Then there is people talking about how much they appreciate Michael <33 while showing videos of MJ without glasses
(the videos were from the rehearsal)

~Oh god too much too much~

then the Black or White song by MJ (no glasses)
the voice was happy, everything was beautiful :]
then the MJ with glasses appeared (red pants) at the end of the song

The "Earth Song" was next by real MJ with glasses talks about why he write songs like that
while watching the new video

then the MJ without glasses sang the song
(the performance was awesome :])

Dancers and singers at stage
MJ with glasses said "we have to start making the difference us instead of waiting for the government"
something like that

Then "Billie Jean" by MJ with glasses
he takes out the glasses while doing a spin
can't really see his face
weird moves or new ones??
again takes out glasses but can't see the face.



They make a circle, hold hands with the MJ with glasses and then sand "Man in the mirror"


And here is the end
a quote saying "Love lives Forever"
then the credits with the "THIS IS IT" and "Heal the World" songs

After the credits the little girl from the video of the "Earth song" is holding the Earth
with the Michael signature at the side


OKAY so what catches my interest is that in the credits it says that the whole "movie" was dedicated to MJ's children by Michael
and if anyone sees it wait till the credits are done
because they show more of Michael saying some stuff that I really didn't heard so if someone knows what does he said at the end
please share

I hope that no one who haven't watch the movie read this and spoil it
and I hope that it helps
Thanks for reading..
I'm going to bed now...

[mjmusicandme]

Yes, the movie indeed was dedicated to Michael's children, it's on the very last part of the credits after Speechless and Heal The World.

[speechlessornot]

I won't watch the movie, I cannot do it...but i enjoy reading the different thoughts. What I want to say is that nocoby have to forget that there were just rehearsals and no performer gives 100% at rehearsals...they keep their best for the main show(s). Also I read smth about some words Michael would say at the final part...there were just the usual discussions between performer and director/producers related to songs, stage arrangement a.s.o. I would have been in ecstasy if the final part of the movie had been a clear message from Michael : I'm alive and everything was just a joke. Even if we love seeking and finding different clues (real or imaginary) in everything is related to Michael, let's be grounded and see the true facts and things.
Sorry if i seem cruel but I cannot be unrealistic just because I or other funs cannot believe that Michael is really gone. It's hurtful, I know, but I have some percents of doubt in my heart , percents that -unfortunately- are bigger and bigger now , after the movie presentation.Anyway I got used with the idea that Michael disappeared for ever for us. Even if he's still alive, he will never be back on the stage to charm us with his angelic voice and smile and so tempting dance moves. So, although I am sure that all of you will blame and hate me, I'll say a warmful THANK YOU , Michael for joy and delight you brought into my heart and Rest In Peace, dear angel , whenever your resting place would be!

[juliet]

Loree, thanks for the long post.

[neverlandprincess]

Ok-so it is 3 am here-I tried to get on at two but the site was down. I really am still wired and I am going to go to work on no sleep-

First off-it is Michael-some shots he looks skinnier but when he opnes his mouth to sing-yeah it is him. The doubles are prob in that really cool new SC video,
Second-No one can tell me michael did not wan to do this,it is simpy amazing. I think the shows were meant to happen-thus erasing any notion I haf that this hoax is about a movie,
Third-Latoya was wrong-his voice was perfect-sounded better than on the history tour.

Ok-now that my critique is over....I did not cry. I kept waiting on the moment when it would hit me and it never did. At the end I was sure there was going to be amoment where they made us relive June 25th and it never came. "Michael jackson-Love lives Forever'-no from and to dates.

The credits: Michael Jackson wanted to thank all dancers that worked before with him....The companion album produced by Michael Jackson?(BTW they did not credit Paul Anka) AFTER the credits the note came dedicated to Michaels children (still no RIP msg). and "Michael Jackson Company".....ok maybe I am seeing to much or been on this site for to long. I still don't have the sinking closre. I loved the movie-but I was surprised that all the songs showed 3 rehearsal ssynced into one....except Billie Jean...no moonwalk. No lean move in Smooth C.


Havent read anybody elses post yet-really late-hands shky b/c of the time but I really didnt wanna lose what i was thinking in a few hrs in the haze of sleepiness.

[neverlandprincess]

He was not lip synching-I have 4 histroy tour dvds -he lip synches alot in those. You could hear him breathe between songs. The only ones he LS in were Thriller-as always and SC-as always.

[neverlandprincess]

I think he wore glasses b/c of lighting.

[Banessa]

Okay I got back a while back and this is my take after the end credits! PLEASE you MUST stay until the very end even when you think the screen has gone blank there is more Do not leave until you finally see the Billie Jean shoes go by in a flash! seriously lol Okay here it goes:

So once the credits roll There is more not much but a little enough to get the clues. They are rehearsing Human nature again and MJ says " I will come back/return when I am ready and in my own time" talking about the timing of the song but if you want a clue and we were hoping for that to me that is a clear one!!! I hope I am not the only one who heard that also the movie is dedicated to the kids and NOT in "Loving memory of Michael Jackson" as one would think it would have been...right? Also not sure what to make of it but during the earth song he talks about the planet and he says we only have "4" years to make it better or something like it but you have to pay close attention to it maybe that is when he will return??? hope sooner but 4 years is better than never!

Hope it helps and The movie is amazing he looks amazing and healthy no way he was an addict to anything except to LOVE and LIFE!

I feel as if his message really is about Our planet and what we can do to save it and for us to start taking action before it is too late. Like with him in a way...People didn't appreciate him when they knew he was alive but until after they found out he had "died"! Except the message regarding the planet is that unlike with him we won't have another chance to get it back ever!!! Whatever we destroy it will be a permanent loss! just my ramblings to contribute to this thread! Enjoy the movie! You will not cry. I thought I would but didn't there was no reason to cry about! The memorial and his "death" were never mentioned at all!

[queenpanther55]

I saw the movie already and It was such a Great Documentary Film ever created.

Michael sang Live more often.

His body works so well , that you will then realized how can this man be that sick and dying? He was running around, jumping and turning...

Im so impressed with the way he communicates with the instrumentalist and how he manage to work on the tunes from his voice... Damn ! Unbelievable.

He narrates his songs to well that even yourself wanted to be inside that large stadium. you can see the dancers were all eyes on him...

I JUST CANT STOP LOVING YOU - is a naughty Michael flirting ... But the end of that part was just so funny to me... "He ended up warming his voice that the girl on duet was like --- speechless, eyes on him , and amazed "

He's got new moves and seen moonwalk one time but just little = but thats no BIGGIE..

Well, I encourage everyone to just watch the film and enjoy. I think that film proves a lot of him and I wonder why some would have to insist about the doubles on the film.
IMO, I myself can think that it was really Michael and if there was really a double then its no big deal to me, even James Bond hires his double for stunts.

I've seen him perform on that film, and there's no way I will stripped him off to prove something more. The Live performances he did was a truly amazing and I give him credit to that.
It was his hard work and pursuance that urge me to really support the REALITY OF HIM and I don't want to spoil the moment because I know he did this to his fans...
( I cried when " for the fans" was seen on screen )
His creative ideas, hymns of his songs, dance moves, and costumes were really really good, its all enough for me. " I couldn't ask for more, he has proven his talent long ago "

This Is It ...Let Him Be...

Thank you michael...

[juliet]

Thanks BANESSA and QUENNPANTHER

[suzzie]

I've seen the movie. Michael never fails to amaze. He is so talented. The way he moved is superb. His charisma is still overflowing. I thought I'll cry during the film but nope I didnot. The movie made me love him more.

[yaya]

Okay I got back a while back and this is my take after the end credits! PLEASE you MUST stay until the very end even when you think the screen has gone blank there is more Do not leave until you finally see the Billie Jean shoes go by in a flash! seriously lol Okay here it goes:

So once the credits roll There is more not much but a little enough to get the clues. They are rehearsing Human nature again and MJ says " I will come back/return when I am ready and in my own time" talking about the timing of the song but if you want a clue and we were hoping for that to me that is a clear one!!! I hope I am not the only one who heard that also the movie is dedicated to the kids and NOT in "Loving memory of Michael Jackson" as one would think it would have been...right? Also not sure what to make of it but during the earth song he talks about the planet and he says we only have "4" years to make it better or something like it but you have to pay close attention to it maybe that is when he will return??? hope sooner but 4 years is better than never!

Hope it helps and The movie is amazing he looks amazing and healthy no way he was an addict to anything except to LOVE and LIFE!

I feel as if his message really is about Our planet and what we can do to save it and for us to start taking action before it is too late. Like with him in a way...People didn't appreciate him when they knew he was alive but until after they found out he had "died"! Except the message regarding the planet is that unlike with him we won't have another chance to get it back ever!!! Whatever we destroy it will be a permanent loss! just my ramblings to contribute to this thread! Enjoy the movie! You will not cry. I thought I would but didn't there was no reason to cry about! The memorial and his "death" were never mentioned at all!

i didn't hear the part about returning when he's ready in his own time...but i did hear the bit about 4 years, which immediately made me think, "4 years?!?! that's so long! but better late than never..." i was trying to figure out what he meant by that, but i dunno. a presidential term here in the states is 4 years...i dunno...

but i did NOT cry! i did feel a little sad for a second, but only cuz i didn't want it to end!

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

Ewww I love this!!! Banessa, your critique was AWESOME!!!! Did anyone else hear him say I will come back/return when I am ready and in my own time????

I am so trying to see the movie, cus now I wanna see it more then ever!! My BF sucks!! He wont go with me!! He thinks MJ is dead.

[yaya]

Ewww I love this!!! Banessa, your critique was AWESOME!!!! Did anyone else hear him say I will come back/return when I am ready and in my own time????

I am so trying to see the movie, cus now I wanna see it more then ever!! My BF sucks!! He wont go with me!! He thinks MJ is dead.

LOL! btw, congrats on becoming a mod!

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

Thanks!!


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